The NWC should be invoked only as a last resort, and should destroy the career of the politician wielding it. It needs to be political suicide - an ultimate sacrifice to bring right actiin to society.

[+] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

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[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

As part of constitutional negotiations, the Notwithstanding Clause was added. In a sense, the Notwithstanding Clause was literally needed to help ~~form Canada itself~~ repatriate the Canadian constitution.
Invoking the Notwithstanding Clause, is time limited to 5 years. At which point, it was originally thought that it's use was either going to be politically costly or accepted by society. Though, with winner-take-all electoral systems, the electorate can't really hold politicians accountable anyway.

[–] honc@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms was enacted in 1982, so this has nothing to do with the formation of Canada, only this charter and the Constitution.

Before that we had the Bill of Rights (enacted in 1960) and before that we had no formal expression of human rights in Canada.

Forming Canada happened back in 1867.

It is true that the Notwithstanding Clause was negotiated and we likely wouldn’t have the charter without it, but it was very “late” in Canada’s history.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

I think they were talking about repatriation.

The Charter and Repatriation happened in 1982.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

"Poilievre says .."

Is all I needed to hear. Dude was kicked to the curb by his riding, should have packed up and gone home. Politics shouldn't be a lifelong career.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

I think it's an important tool to have under very specific scenarios. I don't think it should destroy a politician's career if used properly.

However, conservatives are using it to shove their ideologies down people's throat. That's bad.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Overruling the Supreme Court, the Conservative way. Trump would be proud.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago

PP is copying trump in everyway, at the behest of putin.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

God he’s an asshole. I’m not happy with the ruling but I’m no conservative cry baby.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 43 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Emphasis my own.

The question before the Supreme Court was whether the one-year prison sentence for accessing and possessing child pornography set out in the Criminal Code violated the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which protects against cruel and unusual punishment.

The top court said it was only weighing the constitutionality of the mandatory minimum sentences, and not whether the sentences imposed on the two men were appropriate.

But there's so much misinformation among conservatives... They're obviously going for the headlines, and low information voters.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I’ll also add (for the people that aren’t going to read the article) that they decided the one-year minimum was harmful because in a situation like an 18-year-old receiving an unrequested nude from a 17-year-old, the 18-year-old would get a year in prison.

[–] jaselle@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

this would be true if they were both 17, even.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

All our sentences should have context, that’s why minimums don’t make any sense.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Blanket rules have NEVER made sense.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

but "common sense"???

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

there's so much misinformation among conservatives... They're obviously going for the headlines, and low information voters.

As is tradition.