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Context is everything. "The Bible: In the Beginning" (1966) contains a long fully nude Adam & Eve scene, but schools were encouraged to send kids to see it. My school did. But nudity in movies was very rare in 1966 and such a scene would normally have been prohibited by government censorship if not for the biblical framing.
At least you got to see Eve's tiddies
I don't think there's any context that can make up for forced impregnation.
Mary getting impregnated by God in the Bible? Not really forced, but defs not consensual
Source on it not being consensual?
She didn't even know it happened
I dont remember her asking for it
Well what do you remember her saying when Gabriel showed up and offered to make her mother of the Messiah?
Buddy shows up, flying, flaming sword, tells you God with a capital G is gonna knock you up, kinda high pressure, no?
But hey, she should be grateful. Its a 'uge honor! Really, He's doing this for her. And He's God. When You're God, they let You do what You want. You just (metaphisically) grab em by the pussy, right? Otherwise, someone's gonna be a pillar of salt...
But she never would say no, you know, because of the implication.
If I were an omniscient being who can read minds choosing who to be My mortal incarnation's mother, I'd pick a lady who wants to do the job. You pick a lady who doesn't want to be impregnated, you might be abused or neglected. If you want good mortal parents, you pick people who want to be your parents.
"I am the Lord’s servant. May it be done to me according to your word", which to me i hear words like "servant" and "to your word" and i think this person thinks their word is lower than the other person due to power imbalance etc, and im pretty sure The Gospel of Matthew doesnt mention Mary’s consent. Or maybe even asking her for it, im not sure.
So we've gone from "forced impregnation" to "enthusiastic verbal consent with power imbalance." I'm happy with where the goalposts are now.
"Not really forced, but defs not consensual" goalpost is still there mate, and nice try ignoring my reply. Look, i dont actually care. This was an off the cuff comment that i didnt really wanna defend but i took the bait. I wanna go home.