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"Trust me", said pro-genocide candidate Kamala Harris, who shows no interest in reigning in the billionaires and corporations rushing to support fascism. "I'm better than Trump. I support US imperialism politely."
"Yes, of course I will choose the pile of rusty nails dipped in horseshit over the stale sandwich for lunch. As the sandwich is not very appealing, this seems like the logical choice," said the well-balanced, rationally thinking individual.
The point isn't to choose the rusty nails, it's to settle for better than a stale sandwich. I thought that was obvious. You deserve a candidate who actually represents your interests.
You're right. This is so much better.
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The meme has a point, but thinking there are not degrees of undesirability and instead equating everything undesireable is downright retarded.
And even on the genocide, Trump is still worse
FUCKING. THANK. YOU. ❤️
I wonder if there is an option beyond simply picking between fascism and blue fascism
Harris was imperialist and colonialist, but not fascist. It's ludicrous to equivocate trump and Harris as both being fascist.
And in any case, yeah, vote for progressives in primaries. I know that there wasn't a real primary for 24, but that has more to do with Biden not stepping aside soon enough than anything else. Dem voters are getting tired of establishment enablers, and DNC leadership is no longer interfering to pick favorites (see Mamdani's victory) so we could actually see progressives taking over the party.
You're painting a false equivalency (both sides the same) and pining for other options without actually offering a solution for how to get there, implying that we just stay home and not vote at all. You're the problem. If you don't like the fascism, vote against the fascist. If you don't like the non fascist option, tough shit because there may not be a next time if the fascist wins (and he did and here we are talking about suspending elections). If you actually want better Democrats in the general for the 26 elections, you need to start paying attention now because it's primary season already, and you can and should be donating/volunteering for who you believe in.
If you're being serious about wanting an option outside of the two parties, only one of them is open to things like ranked choice to get rid of first past the post and eliminating the electoral college so that it's people and not land doing the voting. Spoiler alert: convincing people to withhold their vote helps the other guys win, and they're thrilled to keep it a two party system. You may not like somebody milquetoast like Biden, but he course corrected and arrested the slip into fascism while getting some progressive stuff through. Not enough, but it's fucking silly to say that Harris was the same as Biden and also Harris is the same as trump.
Oh no a reasonable rebuttal! Look at ‘em go! They cleared the fence!
Imperialists and colonialists share the same beliefs as fascists. They just disagree on whether or not it’s time to turn the violence of the imperialist machine in on itself. As the decline of America continues, eventually the imperialist are guaranteed to relent and side with the fascists.
On top of that the DNC no legal obligation to run democratic primaries. Regardless of whatever wins democratic socialists have made, they’re so far from actually wielding enough power to meaningfully reform the American system. If they had any chance of success under the current rules then the DNC would just change them. The obvious conclusion is that voting alone will not stop the rise of fascism. It literally the least you can possible do.
They are both capitalists and will therefore both trend toward fascim, albeit at different rates. But that trend toward is a very slippery one way street with entire world wars being necessary to only temporarily revert it and try new ways.
This is why it’s such a depressing mindfuck that the dems would rather remain the way they are instead of change. They want it. Just in a gaslit “guess we gotta be fasc” manner instead of trump’s “we are” manner.
Gotta break the two party system and the electoral college for it to be feasible. I would love for that to happen.
Ive noticed that these guys are trying to start the same moral panic shit among Democratic voters to demotivate them this time around. For example, with Talarico - a key senate seat flip.
It’s definitely going to happen again. So-called moderate trump voters and our own LemLeft have learned nothing.
Yeah with that attitude you're exactly right. That's the problem
Shove it up your ass. We tried to save the Democrats from themselves in 2024 and people like you ran static interference so that the Dems could run on "more of the same" and ultimately lose the election.
Funny, I don't remember seeing you promoting any progressive candidate for the the primaries.
Saw you wokescolding Kamala voters a lot though...
Must just be that you do the first part in communities I'm not in.
My entire comment history is right there buddy. Its all in there. Go take a look instead of relying on your clearly faulty memory.
I love that word. I'm going to take that word.
And again, instead of reacting to your impression of what you think I said, go through my comment history and find examples of that. If you need tools to better access them, I can provide that to you. I've got my entire comment history also available in JSON format, if that makes it easier for you, and you also have no excuse. In other words, put the fuck up or shut the fuck up, because I know precisely what I've said this entire time, and you are responding to your emotional impression of what I've said, not actually what I've said.
My criticisms have been explicitly focused on the maneuvers of the party, the Biden campaign, the Harris campaign, and those who shield the parties or the campaigns from criticism
All of this is based on the central thesis I offer, which is:
That its functionally and practically impossible to move an electorate over the course of a campaign which only lasts a couple of months. There are no mechanisms or tools available to campaigns to do so. Focusing critiques on individual voters when there is no function mechanism to change the minds of millions of voters is counter productive and loses you voters. The Harris campaign lost 6 million votes while not understanding this.
The only path to winning an election is to move a candidate to a set of popular enough policy positions they win the majority of factions necessary to capture the electoral college.
Any one saying that voters just need to "do better" while defending or apologizing for Candidates or campaigns with unelectable policy positions is a dangerous provocateur who, by shielding campaigns or politicians from criticism is operating on behalf of the opposition.
If a candidate holds a policy position which will prevent them from winning the election, voting for them isn't "strategic"; its irrelevant. The only options you have is to move politicians to electable positions. There is no other way to win.
Hit me with some keywords I can use to find the candidate who's campaign you vocally and regularly supported through the DNC primaries in that JSON dump.
Lol says a lot versus a reply like “I supported Smith and/or Johnson”
Yeah you tried real hard, great fucking job
Y'all wanted to lose the election, so thanks for ensuring that outcome.
This is the dumbest fucking take on the planet. Shut the fuck up.
No u.
Oh did you?
Yes. We gave the Democrats a straight-forward path to winning. They simply needed to shift their policy on Gaza. We communicated that here, there, everywhere. We got kicked out of the DNC convention saying it. We said it before Biden stepped down, after. We wrote articles about it. We did podcasts. We wrote editorials. We made it so incredibly clear, that there is really no excuse for not knowing that it was a choice on the part of the campaign to maintain an electable position.