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Anecdotally, conversations with the terminally online type of leftists shows many to be still quite self-satisfied about not voting for Kamala, though.
Because, bOtHsIdEs would have started a religious war on behalf of a secular country.
You're not wrong, and to be clear I voted for Kamala just like I begrudgingly voted for Biden in 2020, and if somebody wants to argue things would be just as fucking horrible right now with Kamala as president, I would assume they're a troll or just a contrarian not worth arguing with.
But if we're looking at this as a continuum of who is to blame if the world were to end today, I do have to say I think there are plenty of more blameworthy people than just those on the left who either fell for propaganda or refused to compromise their values, and honestly (if not naively) believed they were making the right choice.
Regardless, we can't change that now, but if the world ends this way, as of this day I honestly would have to say the establishment Democrats are continuing to edge towards more complicit than blameless, even while knowing this is their chance to prove why they deserve any votes they don't receive.
If I could do 2024 again, I would still vote for Kamala, but I have to say, it makes me more than just a little angry to see so little effort by establishment Democrats to consider their constituents before their donors.
Why Can’t Top Democrats Just Say “No War With Iran”?
It's definitely not all Democrats, and there have been some (like Wyden) who have made their opinions very clear. Those democrats deserve every vote they can get. But shit like this from Schumer only helps to undermine democracy and public faith in the democratic party. It would be great to not have to constantly question who's interests he actually has in mind.
Yes, I fully understand all the caveats and the frustrations with the Democratic Party. I think a great deal of Democrats are in the camp you describe, including me.
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about what seems to be a relatively small (but very vocal and quite smug) subset of the left that offer no truly viable options and then go on to lecture about how America and the DNC/Democratic Party deserves this kind of thing...if I didn't have a few of these types in my life, I'd think the online ones were an orchestrated campaign to throw elections to the right.
There are often several headlines per day that put the lie to how Republicans would be no different than the Democrats, and yet I've yet to see one of these types admit they were wrong or apologize for their claims. I mean, I get the fire in the belly - I was once a teenager, too. The sad part is that some of the people I know personally like this are way past the teen years.
The dem party leaders have complained about how this war was started, haven't heard much actual opposition to the war itself from them
They probably wouldn't have been so sloppy, but the messaging I heard was they would have backed up Israel unconditionally
Which is why we need anti-zionist liberals to run against them in the primaries. Find enough of those, I'll vote for the ones I can vote for...the rest is up to the people.
Yes, because the US wasn't sucking Israeli cock when Biden was president. It's not guaranteed this exact situation would've played out if Harris was president, but fundamentally it's Tel Aviv setting the schedule here, not DC. It's more than likely a Harris admin would've just taken more care to manufacture consent first (and not call the affair a religious war, but secular bombs aren't any better than religious bombs).
PS: Leftists unwilling to vote blue don't exist in large enough numbers to skew any US elections.
Leftists too lazy to register to vote exist in large numbers.