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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There is a distinction without difference in terms of what you define as "coordinated" but there have been a decent number of folk over the years (less so in 2025...) who have been identified for being racist either in their own social media posting or when getting video taped by others who were doxxed and fired. A quick google brings up "Lilly Gaddis" who was apparently a "trad wife tiktokker" who was fired after using the n-word in a cooking video (also I thought the point of trad wifing was that you let some redneck stick it in you so you didn't have to work but...).

Which is kind of the reality of the world. Yes, it is fucking infuriating to see people getting rounded up and fired for expressing relief at the death of a nazi who regularly called for the death of them and/or their loved ones. But it is also important to understand that we are ALL "PR" for our companies in the modern internet. We just don't get any training. And someone doing crotch chops and making "protect ya neck" jokes about the violent murder of someone doesn't reflect too well on KFC (for Popeye's its just another Tuesday). And people need to be aware of that.

Its why: I have a LOT of fun with my various burners like this one (speaking of, it may be time to cycle this account). But on the social media with ties to my government name? I popped a few reposts on the tamer messages by my trans friends and then just texted/called them or went out for drinks. Because... this is late stage capitalism and I gotta eat. Which goes into the whole contrast of support and survival which is a very long conversation.

Could someone do a deep dive on everything I have ever said and figure out who I really am? Of course. But... anyone who knows who I am knows that I was not at all shaken up and got REALLY cheerful midway through the work day. But the difference is that that isn't me actively representing my company as someone who cheers for the murder of nazis.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What I don't get is why a company would judge these two things the same:

  1. Someone using the n-word or other forms of hate speech.
  2. Someone not exactly sad that a Nazi was shot. Are Nazis now a protected class? Also, from the way Taco and others talk, it's provoking violence to call the Nazis and Nazi-adjacent out on their own ideology, I guess. That's a wild take.
[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

To paraphrase everyone's basketball GOAT: "Bitch, nobody says no to me". Err, sorry. To paraphrase the old everybody's basketball GOAT: "Nazis buy sneakers too"

Actually taking a political stand potentially impacts sales. You and I think that anyone who would not want to buy a widget can go fuck themselves. Does EVERYONE at that company think so? What about their families. Lisa doesn't get braces because you wanted to make a political statement?

Again, you and I probably both err more on the side of "fuck it, do what's right". But... the nazis feel the same way about anyone who would dare to acknowledge a trans person's right to exist. Now Lisa doesn't get braces because Johnny just wanted to masturbate on a trans person's corpse and, really, how can that possibly be fair?

Which... gets to your second point. The world is REAL fucked up. And anyone with half a brain (who at all pays attention to politics) has expected this for some time now. Nazis ARE a protected class in the US (and increasingly parts of Europe...) at this point. So now letting Tom say something as fundamentally right as "the only good Nazi is a dead one" without any reprisal means the company faces that reprisal instead. You no longer get any government contracts and now you suddenly find the IRS actually cares about what you filed last year and...

Which changes it. It stops being Chuds versus Humans and instead becomes the people who are willing to put their necks on the line dragging down everyone who is just trying to survive.

Personally? You would need to be REAL fucking radical for me to penalize you at a company I have any control over. But... I would probably sign off on the "Our company believes that, regardless of beliefs, nobody should be executed in broad daylight and our hearts go out towards all those who are impacted"... after spending a few hours pissing off the lawyers to figure out exactly what I can get away with in there. And then I would pop on a VPN and do some REAL heavy shitposting and drinking.

And none of this is new. Back in the day, plenty of us would say things like "Dude, take off your fucking work shirt before you go to the punk show" and so forth.