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[–] Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's good to be humble and open to being wrong. It's bad to stop looking for objective truth. The "post-truth" stance is easily weaponized against the actual truth. Rules should protect the truth.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not saying that people shouldn't look for objective truth, but rather that the behavior of someone who thinks he's probably right and the behavior of someone who thinks he's definitely right are going to be quite different, and that we would all (probably) be better off if cultural norms favored the former sort of behavior rather than the latter.

Norms according to which it is ok for one side to attack the other in some way but it is not ok for the other side to respond in the same way (because the first side considers itself objectively correct) only work when the balance of power between the two sides is so uneven that it would often be called oppression. The desire to oppress others is a part of the human condition that everyone ought to be alert for in themselves - being on the left does not mean being immune. However, even those on the left who are in no mood for tolerance currently don't have the power to win the fight their way - if tolerance doesn't win then the right will win.

[–] Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if tolerance doesn’t win then the right will win.

Would you mind expanding on this? I can think of a few very different interpretations.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I should clarify what I mean by tolerance. I'm talking about the ability to co-exist peacefully even with the people that one hates. If this sort of tolerance breaks down, then the left is at a large disadvantage in the conflict that would follow - the right is generally more unified, better at violence, and in control of the federal government.