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Charlie Kirk was killed by a groyper (lemmy.zip)

submitted 4 days ago by favoredponcho@lemmy.zip to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I highly doubt that, that sounds like something conservative media would make up and people would repeat far too much.

Here's the relevant casing message:

Notices Bulge. OwO What is this?

It's possible he's talking about personal experience, it's also possible he's just spreading hate. We don't know which it is, and we probable won't until the investigation gets further along.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I googled "Kirk Shooter Trans Girlfriend", but the only media I could find reporting it were Fox News and New York Post, and the latter admitted the person in question was neither trans nor the shooter's lover, just that they were "Cooperating with the FBI"

The NYP was especially vile as it just went on about how great of a guy Kirk was, paradoxically claiming Kirk was practicing love and kindness by being openly transphobic. How Orwellian.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Eh, I wouldn't call it Orwellian. It's pretty well l own that Fox News isn't really news (local fox news channels are, just not the national "Fox News," which is "news entertainment"). Likewise, the NYP is pretty awful and slanted.

It would be Orwellian if all the major networks were saying the same, wrong thing.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I meant Orwellian in that they claimed one thing (Charlie Kirk is loving and caring) and their example was the exact opposite (Charlie Kirk hating transpeople)... War Is Peace and all that

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Ah okay.

I think of "Orwellian" as generally meaning coordinated surveillance, disinformation, propaganda, and doublethink (denying truth), typically from a government agency or coordination of multiple powerful non-government entities (e.g. social media groups). As in, something similar to what Big Brother did in 1984 by controlling information and spying on the people.

What you described sounds more like doublespeak, or changing the meaning of words, though I haven't read the article you mentioned.

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've heard it's a 10 year old meme from furry communities that's just about bulges from erections in general, not really a gender/trans thing.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

And do you expect your average journalist to know that? And is it possible it could have multiple meanings, given context?