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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 50 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 67 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I think this person actually wants to run linux, but they are using Mac as a test case.

They mentioned "install an alternative operating system" - which on hardware sold for Windows very much implies Linux.

But if Linux is a no, and even macos is a no - which is from a "big proper company" with support agreements and everything - then the company is obviously a lost cause who are set on windows for life for all time.

[–] consumptionone@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, the people at Red Hat are left asking, "are we a joke to you?"

[–] yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ubuntu and Suse join the chat

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Ubuntu is even more hostile towards developers than microslop.

[–] shane@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago

Red Hat is not really meant for the desktop.

IBM, which owns Red Hat, uses Fedora for the Linux desktop for engineers who want Linux.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think this person actually wants to run linux, but they are using Mac as a test case.

They mentioned "install an alternative operating system" - which on hardware sold for Windows very much implies Linux.

But if Linux is a no, and even macos is a no - which is from a "big and proper organisation" with support agreements and everything - then the company is obviously a lost cause who are dead-set on windows for life for all time.

[–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm just replying to see if you copy the same response, for science.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think this person actually wants to run linux, but they are using Mac as a test case.

They mentioned "install an alternative operating system" - which on hardware sold for Windows very much implies Linux.

But if Linux is a no, and even macos is a no - which is from a "big and proper organisation" with support agreements and everything - then the company is obviously a lost cause who are dead-set on windows for life for all time.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm just replying to see if you copy the same response, for science.

[–] GianBarGian@feddit.it 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think this person actually wants to run linux, but they are using Mac as a test case.

They mentioned "install an alternative operating system" - which on hardware sold for Windows very much implies Linux.

But if Linux is a no, and even macos is a no - which is from a "big and proper organisation" with support agreements and everything - then the company is obviously a lost cause who are dead-set on windows for life for all time.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I’m just replying to see if you copy the same response, for science.

It's what happens if you submit a comment and fall for the egregious lie that is Lemmy telling you it didn't go through

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Whoops. I commented, decided to rephrase and edited. But it didn't result in an edit and I didn't notice as that's when I went to bed.

[–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago

It was just a light hearted dig, no need to explain yourself .

[–] robbo@programming.dev 18 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Windows is shit for most things. Especially shit for development.

[–] zerofk@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As someone who does cross-platform development: everything on Mac takes twice as long, and breaks with every OS update. And that’s without even the switch from PPC to Intel 32 bit to Intel 64 bit to ARM.

I’m exaggerating a bit, and I’m sure in many environments Mac is easy enough. But for us - there’s a reason we have more Mac developers than Windows and Linux combined, and it’s not because people want a Mac.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

windows: "we run everything"

Mac: "think differently"

linux: "works today, just like it did 35 years ago"

[–] TRock@feddit.dk 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What makes it shit for development? I've been using windows as a developer for almost 10 years. I have switched to Linux at home, but I don't develop on that PC. So I'd honestly like to hear whats so bad about it, and why is your preferred OS better?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

over the past 10 years microslop has become increasingly hostile towards developers and encouraging vendor lock-in.

just over the last 5 years alone, microslop has stolen finite resources and refused to relinquish them under the guise of a better "user experience". these resources are important to the stability and development of systems locally. unfortunately microslop's solution is "use Azure remote services".

everything microslop does is to drive users to their cloud services.

I'll put it down to numbers for you if it's not clear.

I can spend $1000 on a laptop, install Linux, and run 20± containers AND have a usable desktop environment for the next 10+ years.

or

I can spend $1500 on a laptop, install microslop and run 5+ containers AND have a slightly sluggish desktop environment for the next 6 months to a year, PLUS have my entire device bricked by an update or two within that time. microslop's solution? "sync your files to onedrive".

this is why windows sucks for developing unless you're locked into microslop's development programs.

if you're doing c#, batch, .NET, or even Java, you're probably fine using Windows. if you're doing 80% of the rest of any development, you're better off using Linux.

[–] leobm@feddit.org 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

WSL—and the ability it provides to run Linux on Windows—is actually quite convenient

[–] exu@feditown.com 17 points 3 days ago

But if all you need Windows for is a VM to run Linux, then just run Linux

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is, but WSL is also pretty much shit.

I've been maining Windows with WSL at work, and it works great, till it doesn't. And then it just sucks, and sucks, and sucks.

Almost always has to do with processes on WSL.not being killed by connectors to their windows counterparts. And docker desktop, holy hell, docker desktop and WSL just love to turn WSL into sludge.

I've been fighting with it for years, WSL is an awesome idea, it works great when it works. But as soon as you out real development loads onto it it just folds.

[–] terabyterex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this is entire statement is ridiculous. anyone who puts a completely closed system above anything isbretarded. and since you are retarded i have to explain that open system does not mean open source.

you probably thing development is made up of front end and back end like op. when in fact front and back tohlgther is web dev and web dev is a very small portion of development.

[–] robbo@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

Bros out here fighting ghosts

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

Visual studio is pretty ok with it's debugging functionalities.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 5 points 2 days ago

Don't have to be a mac elitist to reject windows