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submitted 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) by Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
 
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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (6 children)

Men

  • higher loneliness
  • seen as dangerous by default
  • higher mental illness
  • worse academic performance
  • higher suicide rates
  • higher rates of homelessness
  • less likely to get child custody in a divorce
  • less support infrastructure
  • are more likely to be dismissed when asking for help
  • work more dangerous jobs
  • higher workplace accident rate
  • higher probability to be victim of a violent crime
  • more likely to suffer from addiction (gambling, porn, substances)
  • lower life expectancy
  • higher incarceration rate
  • more likely to be poor
[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Women

  • economic inequality
  • unpaid labor and caregiving
  • gender based violence
  • greater healthcare discrepancies
  • professional and political barriers
  • education barriers

Do you see the discrepancies between the two list? Everything you listed is something that we men either do to ourselves, or is done to us by a political/economic entity that is dominated by other males. The same can't be said for list for women.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Two things can be true at the same time. FFS, this oppression competition is beyond pathetic.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 3 points 11 hours ago

Nuance also exists.....

Also it's not really a competition when only one group is being oppressed.

Or are you claiming men are being oppressed by the system that was created and operated by men?

My whole point is that women are systemically being targeted by a system created by men, specifically because they are women. While men are being negatively affected by a system built by men because of reasons besides their sex.

I'm not claiming men do not experience hardship that is unique to their sex, it's just not specifically being done to them because of their sex.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

HEY! Two things can be true is my thing!

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

Two people can be right at the same time ;P

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 32 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Yes, but I think the point was the white part of "white men."

I was "lucky" enough to have my privilege put in plain english during a job interview. I'm white and this guy literally says "it so hard to find a clean cut white guy for this job, I don't want some Dominican walking into a customers store with our logo on." If I was not white I would not have gotten that job.

But yes, as you say, I'm stuck working in a factory right now with shitty air quality, I've been single for almost a decade, have severe anxiety and depression, and am fairly poor. Still doesn't mean I don't have privilege for simply being white. :/

[–] Beebabe@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

This is a good point to bring up. My friend who is far less educated and her husband have awful jobs compared to me, but because they have generational wealth they are much better off in life. They have homes, land, etc all because they were passed down. At the same time, they would rail against being called privileged, but they could sell that home for half a million dollars and never go into the debts or put in the work others have to just to have a roof over their heads.

[–] ZJBlank@lemmy.world 22 points 14 hours ago

Big fucking yikes, they just said that out loud?

I’m in kinda the same boat, early 30s white guy, shitty job (truck driver), single, and so depressed and anxious that I’m currently on short term disability because of it.

I feel like the big problem with the discourse around white privilege is that most people misunderstand what it actually means. It doesn’t mean that everything is handed to you purely because of skin colour, and it doesn’t mean that things can’t be difficult. It just means that we get an unspoken, and often unconscious advantage over our racialized peers in our white-dominated society.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 7 points 13 hours ago

I don't see how nobody else sees a connection between the way men are viewed, and the way black people, who are viewed as more masculine in society than other races, are viewed. A significant portion of that list is a list of what black people go through, black men even moreso.

[–] hesh@quokk.au 21 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (12 children)

These are all great reasons for men to want to dismantle the patriarchy (the cause of them all)

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[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 22 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Yes and you know what all us leftists say, "if you have any adversity it means you never had any privilege at all in the first place" very valid. Thank you for your contribution.

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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (26 children)

What is the source of these issues?

Maybe men should stop being so shitty to men, but more so they should definitely stop being so hostile and abusive to women.

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure all the male homicide victims would be really glad they weren't killed by women because then they would have lost their privilege...

I really hate this reasoning I see sometimes that because men hurt other men we don't need to care about those victims. We can just dismiss them and assume they still have all their male privilege because a smaller number of women are also victims. How about we stop framing all this stuff as men vs women and who has it better and instead focus on the actual problems and the actual victims regardless of their gender expression?

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You’re really good at not understanding systemic socio psychology issues.

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe you're just too focused on a single way of categorising people

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[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

These are all true and factual, excellent job.