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Half the anti-vaxxers I knew had concerns what was in the shot but did coke all weekend.
I used to party hard and I’ve got fucked up with people going on about Covid vaccine as we are actively doing lines off a fucking table. When id point it out they’d say that’s different.
Idiots.
They're right, we know exactly the kind of damage snorting powdered drugs has on your nose and heart. They were taking a calculated risk, you were just rolling the dice with your health. Owned again, liberal.
(I AM JOKING)
Had me in the first 95% I can’t lie.
I mean, the thing they're not saying is that they think the vaccines are being used to control people. The cocaine is just cocaine.
I'm sure you already know this, but it's good to remember that flat earthers and the like don't actually care if the earth is flat or not, that's not really what it's about.
Cool username.
Erm… What is flat earth about then? Genuinely curious. Is that to be anti-establishment? As that’s me but I’m bit anti-science. Or is something else.
Oh, I wasn't expecting the question, haha.
It's probably easiest to link my favorite videos on the subject, but in short-ish:
The exact way that crack-conspiracist thinking manifests can definitely differ, but the bottom line is that the belief is usually fulfilling some kind of emotional niche. Listlessness, powerlessness, loneliness, etc. This is the reason that the most vulnerable to this kind of thinking are disaffected types who don't have much going on in their lives.
A person might think they care about the earth being flat, but the thing that actually keeps them there is the excitement that they're privy to a secret that makes them special just for knowing it, or the feeling of spiteful and vengeful superiority that comes from knowing something that you don't, or the narrative of ascension that says, when this secret is finally exposed, the special ones will be catapulted to the top of society where they were always meant to be.
If you took flat earth from flat earthers, there's a good chance they would just sideline into a different conspiracy theory, probably one they've already been exposing themselves to, because it's something that fulfills the same emotional need.
My favorite video on conspiracy/cult dynamics at the moment is this one about that Gamestop stocks thing that happened. I like it because it covers how conspiracists plug-n-play their own beliefs to protect the core of what they want to be true.
But, this one is actually about flat earth, so maybe it's more relevant.
Nobody was thinking straight during the Covid Panic. I got the vaccine because I’m the type of person it likes to kill.
But it surprised me that the crowd that are terrified of Forever Chemcalz, atomz, BPA, microplastics and frequently scream “Regulations are written in blood!” were chomping at the bit to force everyone to get injected with a product from Big Pharma that was fast tracked and bypassed all normal regulations to get to market as soon as possible by the executive orders of a billionaire president they despised.
Meanwhile, the MAGA crowd were booing Trump at his rallies when he told them to go out and get vaccinated.
The whole world had gone cross-eyed.
Edit:
If any humans happen into this thread, take a look at these bots below replying, upvoting, downvoting. It’s shocking. It’s like There Will Come Soft Rains in reverse.
They have no idea what I’m saying. I made a joke about the possibility that vaccines could cause people to explode and they’re taking it at face value. Spitting out the same messages over and over “it’s safe and effective” and “You’re spreading misinformation” and demanding I provide evidence that vaccines cause people to explode and seriously explaining that vaccines do not cause people to explode. Wow.
Maybe the world didn't go cross-eyed. It was the bots.
Yes it was fast tracked but it did not bypass all normal regulations.
Not only was the vaccine incredibly safe it was also incredibly effective.
Are you telling me, or are you telling yourself that?
I don't know, man. They said the same thing about PFAS, thalidomide, the 1976 U.S. swine flu vaccine and fentanyl. You could have up to an 80% increased chance of exploding before the age 65.
This is just straight up misinformation.
Show the statistics on ‘an 80% increased chance of exploding before the age 65’ or look at every single study that show it’s incredibly safe.
Are you joking or is the whole world still cross-eyed about this?
Most of the world and the majority of the researchers and scientists agree.
Do you want to provide some studies showing how they’re all wrong?
I'm pretty sure you're a bot. You seem completely unable to parse my comments.
You’re attempting to spread misinformation that’s been throughly debunked so I’m not sure what else I’m supposed to be reading?
Really now? It's been thoroughly debunked that vaccines cause people to explode? I could be wrong, but I think that I am the very first person on Earth to propose that.
The reason you are the first person to propose that is because there have been no known instances of people exploding because of vaccines. Nobody has ever exploded on their own.
Which means it is misinformation to spread that and it is up to you to provide evidence like cases where it did happen.
But you can't, because it never happened. And we can still call you out on it.
No, shit? Are you guys having a stroke? Should we send help?
It's clearly a joke. Poking fun at the “Regulations are written in blood!” crowd who have to scream “It’s safe and effective!” in everyone’s faces because their very souls on the line if they’re wrong. They’re telling themselves. Especially when they’re yelling it at me.
For me, if evidence pops up years down the road that it has a statistically increased chance of causing cancer or whatever, it’s no big deal because I know regulations have to be written in blood because that blood is the evidence that there is a problem. We can’t act till we have evidence.
The question is are you perfectly okay with waiting till people start exploding? What if you explode?
So you're just a troll. "Why don't more people adopt an unreasonable position?"
There were/are plenty of antivax hippie types. You seem to be trying to lump everyone on the left as being on the same page as them. Who are all these people screaming "regulations are written in blood," at you? I've never heard the phrase in my life. Apparently this represents some broad cultural movement? Can you name some notable public figures who oppose all regulations except when it comes to vaccines?
Or are you just pulling all of this out of your ass to troll?
Google it. There are pages and pages and pages of results for it.
So you can't name a single notable figure.
"Google it" is that the standard now? All that shows it that some random people on the internet say it. It doesn't prove that those people are the same ones who support regulations regarding vaccines. It also doesn't show that it represents any real meaningful movement.
It'd be like if I said, "Why do so many people scream 'taxation is theft' and then support burglery?" and when someone asks, "Do they support burglery? Who?" I respond, "Just Google it and you'll see lots of people saying that phrase."
You're just a troll. And one of the worst kinds of trolls, someone who trolls about vaccines. Your stupid little games get people killed.
This is an unhinged non sequitur. I am clearly in favor of vaccines. I am clearly pointing out how incredibly safe they are.
The way you troll is by saying more people should be antivax and then explaining (once pressed) that you're actually pro-vaccine and just want them to be internally consistent with principles they don't actually hold.
You're not being clever with this shit, you're just helping to poison the well.
WTF! I in no way said this.
That sounds a hell of a lot like criticizing pro-vaccine people as hypocrites because we're supposedly the same group that scream "Regulations are written in blood."
It’s criticizing political hobbyist. I got the vaccine because it was rational to get it. You got the vaccine because it was fashionable.
See, you're doing it again right now, exactly like I described. You're playing this game of criticizing people for getting the vaccine, attacking motives, while giving yourself plausible deniability by saying that you got it because it was rational.
How do you know that I and other people did not also get it because it was rational? Why do you even care why people got it? If it's the rational choice, you should be glad that it was "fashionable."
I guess this does open up another possible interpretation, which is that you're a narcissist who just assumes everyone else is stupid even when they're making the same decision as you and feel this need to present yourself as better than everyone else. I'm not sure whether that's better or worse than simply trolling. You're a complete, absolute dickhead who's poisoning the well either way.
All I can say is that I got the vaccine and I encourage others to do so too because of the evidence and not because some lunatic on the internet might call you a dickhead if you don't.
And you're calling me a lunatic on the basis that I'm pro-vaccine, the position that you claim to hold.
You're just a troll trying to stir up drama. That's all you are, 100%.
You should probably look up how vaccine testing schedules work normally compared to what they ddid with the covid vax. They didn’t rush or skip any testing, they simply put it ahead of every other test schedule, it was tested as thoroughly as every other vaccine, they merely delayed testing of other vaccines, because of the whole pandemic thing that was going on and, you know, the cripplingly dire need for it and all that.
You’re preaching to the choir here. My point was that the anti-corporate crowd that believes companies are trying to murder their customers for profit are not normally so charitable to such a thing. It was a bizarre moment of clarity. A benefit of doubt extended to only Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson and no other corporations.
Meanwhile, the MAGA crowd that would jump off a cliff if Trump told them to, drew the line at vaccines for some reason.
It was and still is weird.
Nobody took it at face value, you lying troll.
The fact that we don't put up with your troll shit doesn't make us bots.
Ahhhh. I see. Bot angry! Bot smash!
I wish I was a bot so I wouldn't have to worry about the diseases you're gonna spread with your idiotic troll shit.
My rational responses will encourage people to get the vaccine. Your psychotic rants will scare them away from it.
Oh come on, you have to be less obvious when you troll!
Yes, I'm sure bashing everyone else who got the vaccine as a brainwashed hypocrite who's just following trends is the way to encourage more people to get the vaccine. Yes, what a "rational" response to assert that you're the only person who got it for rational reasons and that everyone else is an idiot.
Come on, you know as well as I do that none of your comments from the very beginning have been about encouraging anyone to get vaccinated. At best it's about trying to feel superior to everyone. At worst it's trying to pick a fight and spread confusion and doubt.
I'm not though because the vast majority of people are not political hobbyists and they, like me, did not get the vaccine because it was fashionable. They got it because it was reasonable.
This is not true. But if you insist on believing it, take comfort from the lessons of Kurt Vonnegut's Mother Night. Even if I'm pretending to encourage people to get vaccinated, it is still encouraging people to get vaccinated. You are who you pretend to be.
That was absolutely not the impression anyone would get from reading your initial comment.
Lol that's not how that works. You're actively sowing confusion and doubt and attacking people for being pro-vaccine, and then you defend this behavior by saying "actually, I'm pro-vaccine." I don't mind the part where you say you're pro-vaccine. I mind the other part, the part where you're discouraging people from getting vaccinated.
They do. Most people are not as irrational and simple as you are.
Yes. It is. If you pretend to be a Nazi and spread Nazi propaganda, you are a Nazi. That's what Mother Night is all about. But I actually got the vaccine because like most people, I didn't want to get covid. It sounds unpleasant. And if you don't want covid, get the vaccine.
You keep insisting this but it's not true. No one except you and the bots are getting confused about this. Rational humans will never believe that vaccines will make them explode.
I'm not doing that. That's all in your head, pal.
Lmao! Yes, I suppose if you simply label all the people who interpret your comment a certain way as "bots" then you can say that anything means anything!
Either you misunderstand, or you're pretending to misunderstand.
If I go around talking shit about people who accept the consensus view on the Holocaust, if I call them all sheep who just believe whatever they're told, and then I say that actually I accept the consensus view, but it's because I'm rational and researched it myself, I do not get to hide behind that last part to excuse the first part. If I pretend I didn't rob a bank, that doesn't make me not a bank robber. You're trying to twist Voggnaut's message around to justify dishonesty.
Again, I'm caught between the two possibilities. Either you're a pretentious narcissist who thinks you're way smarter than you actually are (and than everybody else) and are quoting Voggunaut to sound smart, or you're deliberately trolling and throwing that out to muddle the facts.
Oh really! So the part where you had that whole rant about "Regulations are written in blood," that was all in my head, was it? The parts where you've repeatedly attacked "political hobbyists" for getting the vaccine, those were also all in my head? The parts where you've called me "psychotic" and a "lunatic" for being pro-vaccine, again, all in my head?
Fuck right the hell off with your trolling and your attempts to spread doubt.
It's not just a label. It's a logical conclusion. If I'm talking to my neighbor and I make a joke about how eating cookies will make them explode and they begin to seriously lecture me about how there is no evidence that cookies make people explode and accuse me of lying, I'm going to assume there is something mentally wrong with them. Any rational person would assume that. It's like a Twilight Zone episode. On the Internet, if two or more people are exhibiting the same symptoms, they're probably bots.
Dang. I feel like I'm in an I Think You Should leave skit.
No one "seriously lectured you" on that.
You assume everyone who disagres with you (and many who do agree with you) has something mentally wrong with them. It's a common symptom of people who think they're smarter than they actually are.
Hmm, I'm not sure what that would look like. "In a world... where someone criticizes people for getting vaccinated... people treat that person as being anti-vaccine." Not much of a twist, is it?
Lol, yes, you do seem like someone from an I Think You Should Leave skit.
Not on that but something similar. It's called an analogy.
https://lemmy.world/post/44414566/22740943
Yeah, I know what you were referring to. That's not a "lecture."