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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (29 children)

There was a post about making cats vegan. The mod then decided that people posting information on why that is a bad idea were antivegan or something. The mod started then removing any information that pointed to cats not being able to be health while on a vegan diet. The Lemmy.world admins them stepped in stating that improperly feeding your cat constitutes animal abuse and is unethical. This made many die hard vegans very mad.

For the record, cats can not be vegan. They can survive on it but they will have shorter more painful lives and they will go blind. There bodies start breaking down without the proteins and amino acids found in meat. I understand why vegans would be unhappy with that answer but it is the way it is.

Interesting enough, that's not the case for dog. You can put a dog on a vegan diet as long as you are very careful and are constantly monitoring. It isn't for the faint of heart and can have very sad outcomes. It isn't something you can arbitrarily do.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Disclaimer that I'm not even a vegan but you're spreading disinfo here to make vegans seem completely unreasonable. I suggest anyone check out the actual discussions instead of trusting this summary.

[–] Exatron@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Cats are obligate carnivores, sparky. That means they can't be vegan.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Show me a scientific study that proves this. If you can say it with confidence, it should be no trouble at all for you to prove it. I, on the other hand, am lazy and don't care all that much, so I want the people confidently stating opinions to share their research to save me effort.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Those aren't scientific studies. The vegans have scientific studies. You expect me to believe you know better than them, but you can't show me sources of equal quality?

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of those is a Wikipedia link which gives you primary sources. 🤔

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cat food is food specifically formulated and designed for consumption by cats. As obligate carnivores, cats have specific requirements for their dietary nutrients, namely nutrients found only in meat or synthesised, such as taurine and Vitamin A.

Hey look, your Wikipedia link says the nutrients cats need from meat can be synthesised in literally the second sentence.

Vegetarian or vegan cat food has been available for many years, and is targeted primarily at vegan and vegetarian pet owners. While a small percentage of owners choose such a diet based on its perceived health benefits, the majority do so due to ethical concerns, such as about the large environmental impacts of animal agriculture.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You also put have the thing where it says they are obligate carnivores in the second sentence of the first paragraph that is cited. I did NOT make those claims just provided you with links for further reading.

Edit: spelling and grammar

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago

It sounds like you aren't very assured of the validity of your sources in backing up your claims. If you don't believe in your own sources, why are you so confident in your opinions?

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