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[–] markz@suppo.fi 12 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Haven't read unobomber's manifesto and probably never will because fuck anyone who seeks attention this way.

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

people also talk about it as if everyone knows what its about

haven't seen a tldr so far

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Damn you're so brave for condemning the unybomber.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Given the 2:1 ratio on that comment it seems like it actually is a contentious opinion. Maybe the backlash is all due to it being interpreted as virtue signaling, but... there's so many comments in here unironically praising Ted for his ideas and refraining from commenting on his later actions (or actively justifying them as ex: a way to be taken seriously).

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the contentious part is you acting sanctimonious about it. I know it rubbed me the wrong way, hence, my sarcasm.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure it's unwarranted to explicitly condemn the unabomber here, though. People are unironically praising him in these comments - if condemnation was as obvious as you implied you would have much stronger grounds on which to call me sanctimonious, but right now there's plenty of people arguing the effectiveness of what he did in distributing his message and nobody that's yet pointed out that he was a literal terrorist.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And you're so brave for condemning terrorism.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's rather depressing that that's what you consider brave, but I'll take the compliment.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're being sanctimonious again.

There are the people who agree that terrorism is bad, but want to discuss the things he had to say anyway. For them, you're just ignoring the premise of the thread with your oh so brave condemnation of terrorism. It's not that they disagree with your condemnation, but rather, they want to discuss him and the things they agree with despite it.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

You’re being sanctimonious again.

Nah, I was just being sarcastic. You were being a troll, it seemed fair. That said, 'Sanctimonious' ("Righteousness accompanied by an unwarranted attitude of moral or social superiority") is how you're behaving now. I never implied any superiority over other commenters, just that they haven't expressed any condemnation of him in favor of discussing his work with a concerning amount of detachment - and that I'm concerned about the social realities that leads to that being normalized. It's concerning, especially because as others have pointed out the fame that came from him being a terrorist has buried discussion about the work of the much better philosophers he (charitably) synthesized his ideas from.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unebomber had some valid complaints

[–] Comrade_Spood@quokk.au 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

They have been made by much better people who weren't also eco-fascists.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Eco terrorist, actually.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but few people talk about them.

[–] Comrade_Spood@quokk.au -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Thats the problem. So maybe rather than giving the eco-fascist more coverage, we should highlight people who deserve it

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Unebombers actions were bad indeed.

[–] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't approve of his methods, either.

Then again, I don't approve of the Church's methods, but there's some pretty good stuff buried in the Christian bible, too.

Reading something doesn't mean you need to agree with the author. It's not like people are financially supporting the Unibomber, or excusing his actions, when they read his manifesto. They're just studying history.

[–] markz@suppo.fi 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The comment was half just an excuse to mispell the name after OP set it up like that.

But from what I've heard, I'm not missing much of value, so I'd only be reading ramblings of a madman.

[–] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"We give up a piece of ourselves whenever we adjust to conform to society's standards. That, and we're too plugged in. We're letting technology take over our lives, willingly."

Absolute insanity. Obviously a madman.

[–] markz@suppo.fi 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well I didn't need Ted to figure that out. How does the rest hold up?

[–] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's been 30 years and people are still talking about it. He'd probably consider that a win.


He predicted that technological advances would lead to extensive and ultimately oppressive forms of human control, including genetic engineering, and that human beings would be adjusted to meet the needs of social systems rather than vice versa.

Kaczynski stated that technological progress can be stopped, in contrast to the viewpoint of people who he said understand technology's negative effects yet passively accept technology as inevitable. He called for a revolution to force the collapse of the worldwide technological system, and held a life close to nature, in particular primitivist lifestyles, as an ultimate ideal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski


He hated leftist views, he hated fascism. He seemed to advocate a technological level somewhere between Native American and Amish. Call him an isolationist libertarian, I suppose. His solution to the problem is like something out of Fight Club - a one man "Project Mayhem."

tl;dr: His methodology was pointlessly cruel and ineffective. But his assessment of the human condition wasn't too far off the mark.

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Just gonna rip from Wikipedia

With its initial publication in 1995, the manifesto was received as intellectually deep and sane. Writers described the manifesto's sentiment as familiar. To Kirkpatrick Sale, the Unabomber was "a rational man" with reasonable beliefs about technology. He recommended the manifesto's opening sentence for the forefront of American politics. Cynthia Ozick likened the work to an American Raskolnikov (of Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment), as a "philosophical criminal of exceptional intelligence and humanitarian purpose ... driven to commit murder out of an uncompromising idealism".

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

UNObomber? Is that the Mexican knockoff version?

[–] markz@suppo.fi 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No his letter just got returned to sender

spoiler

i will use that term whenever someone hits me with a few +4 in a game

[–] sidebro@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah, damn that unåbomber guy

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Onionbomber always brings a tear to the eye.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Dead people can't do much with attention

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

unobomber was crazy but have you seen the duobomber?

[–] markz@suppo.fi 1 points 2 days ago