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I want to consider those opposed to Republicans as on the same side. Since if we aren't, we're probably fucked permanently.
Are they opposed to Republicans if they're willing to let Republicans win to teach 'the libs' a lesson?
Generally I would regard that as 'not opposed'.
Notice I said "want to". The idiots should do one thing, but apparently a lot of them will do the opposite, ignoring what should've been a lesson to them.
are the democrats opposed to republicans if they are willing to give away their base to teach the progressives a lesson? “vote blue no matter who, even against your interest.”
That was what they said! Like - literally. Verbatim.
Please tell me more about how the 2020-2024 Dem platform was a major 'give away' of the Dem base, and not the most progressive platforms the Dems have taken in my entire fucking lifetime.
you get to choose one, and only one:
the progressive voting block don’t deserve a candidate because they are too few to matter.
or
the progressive voting block not voting against their interest is why the democrats lost the election.
you can’t have both.
I am a progressive. We deserve a candidate. So fucking show up to the primaries next time.
Watching Bernie get a fucking quarter of the vote in 2020 was heartbreaking.
You do realize that the election was lost by under 2%, right?
Would you like to extend that logic, that any interest group that can sink a candidacy is also entitled to dictate to the party whatever terms it likes, and holds no responsibility for the outcome if the party does not sufficiently compromise with them, in their view?
If you want support from people, you have to give them SOMETHING besides just not being the other person. Continuing unyielding support for genocide (but maybe occasional giving them 10 bombs instead of 20) and telling people that human rights are for states to decide is the exact opposite of giving those voters ANYTHING.
Wasn’t the question to explain that part?
I’ll start. The Dem platform did not promise to end capitalism immediately. They specifically planned to continue it.
most of them dint vote, actually the younger voters for both sides voted less than millennials and older.
right, the question is why. and if the argument, such as what pug -constantly- expouses, is that the progressives cost the democrats the election by not voting hard enough.
if you are saying that the non voters may not care either way, or are balanced on both sides or across the spectrum, then you essentially are claiming that progressives do not deserve a progressive canidate because they do not have enough people. which would mean arguments like pug’s, condemning progressives for the failure and NOT the DNC, is wrong.
Me too, but they just wanted to shit on our candidates and let trump win. They were pretty clear about that. All this trump insanity is the Democrats’ fault. Heck, they still say it now.
That plus the fact that there doesn’t seem to be any other plan at all besides shitting on Democrats makes me think they’re just high-quality GRU inductees. Or functionally indistinct, anyway.
What is GRU?
Oh thats the russian military arm that handles a lot of the disinformation, trolling and trump support stuff.
Gotcha. Yeah, it's really hard to believe that people could be so myopic, so I tend to agree with you that many of them must be.