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I will never understand why left leaning people feel the need to defend a state which is essentially a heridetary monarchy disguised AS communist ... ?
"I don't understand why you don't unquestioningly accept falsehoods! Don't you understand that they're against the Bad Guys?"
So ... What would you discribe the country AS ? A country with an extremly poor pollpulace (which used to be Richer than south Korea btw) in which one family always gets to decide who is in power ?
A country which errects walls arround itself to keep people in ?
I dont habe to rely in reports of all the human rights violations - just the fact that apparently i. A country of millions only one family gets to rule says a lot
I feel the need to "defend" every single state that has ever existed. Because I'm operating on a different paradigm than you.
I care about whether claims made are true or false. "Defending" doesn't enter into the equation for me. If you say Hitler was an evil space alien, I will push back on that, simply because it's not true, with absolutely zero regard for whether by refuting misinformation, I'm "defending Hitler."
Liberals seem to operate differently. They see things in terms of good countries and bad countries (and people), and they see everything in those terms. So, if a claim is complete bullshit, but it makes a "bad country" look bad, then you should accept it, or at least let it stand. And if someone tries to refute misinformation about a "bad country," the only way they can understand that behavior is if the person saying it thinks the "bad country" is actually "good."
To me, that's just intellectual dishonesty. You don't just make shit up about whoever you don't like, and I don't see how anyone who sees things that way could ever be trustworthy.
The Kim family does have outsized influence, but the DPRK is not a hereditary monarchy. For example, the position of President, held by Kim Il-Sung, was abolished and split into multiple positions upon his death. This is why he is remembered as the “Eternal President.” As such, both Kim Jong-Il and Kim Jong-Un have held different positions. Both have held high positions, for example Kim Jong-Il had the title of General Secretary of the Worker’s Party of Korea, a position held by Kim Jong-Un presently. However, this is not the whole story.
The DPRK has a much more distributed level of power, and the Kim family is both widely supported due to its influence, and yet is not the undisputed top-dog, so to speak. What’s more, the Kim family is so venerated precisely because the legacy of Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-Il is lived memory, imagine if Lenin had survived and raised his children as successors. It would be no wonder that the soviets would have elected his children, but it would not be a monarchy either.
Finally, class. Class is not a level of material wealth, but a relation to production and distribution. The DPRK is overwhelmingly publicly owned and planned, administration is not a distinct class in and of itself but a subset of broader classes, same with intellectuals. What determines class is based on that key aspect, the Kim family does not own capital but instead recieves wages from the state. Kim Jong-Un is largely used as a symbol, one that is democratically elected and directly trained by his father for the position.
This is why it’s important to actually study the real systems at play, rather than coast on pre-formed opinions drilled into us about the DPRK from western media. The Black Panther Party maintained good relations with the DPRK, visiting it and teaching Juche to Americans.
From Professor Roland Boer's Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance:
I highly recommend the book, it helps shed light on some often misunderstood mechanisms in socialist democracy, including the directly addressed fact that the DPRK's voting process includes single candidate approval voting.
So you truly believe that the dprk is in fact democratic ?
Oh and btw. Just cause a country has elections doesnt mean it isnt a monarchy
And yes the Kim family only receives a wage ... They arnt different from regular people - they just habe certain priviliges that noone else has - linke Sendung your children to private schools in switzerland - totally the same as a ricefarmer
The DPRK has a functional democratic system, yes, and isn't a monarchy. I think my comment already answered this. Further, having higher or lower income does not make someone a different class.