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I will keep saying this:
Socioeconomically disadvantaged young dudes are angry.
Instead of broadly shaming them for that, relate to that anger, temper it, show them how to use it in a controlled manner, and point it toward something useful, constructive.
Give them a rules-based, defined, productive outlet for it.
If you just tell them to bottle it up... they will eventually explode, and cause collateral damage.
How sad is it that a goofily angry man on the TV is a better parent than anon's parents?
Well, it doesn't matter how sad it is, because most parents these days are working too many jobs for not enough money, to even possibly be decent parents.
Thats just reality.
... You wanna beat the fascists at their game of weaponizing male insecurity and angst?
Provide a better version of channeling that insecurity and angst: Give them a framework for thinking and acting that they can channel the anger and energy into genuienly useful and productive forms.
Actually show them a positive, socially beneficial form of masculinity, that gives them their own identity, instead of a cultic group identity.
Some even say Star Trek TNG characters were their role models because it were the first adults actually acting as adults they were exposed to.
I mean, beyond Mr. Rogers, yeah I absolutely can see that.
The people telling boys to bottle up their emotions are the fascists. I don't mean that everyone who has said this is ideologically fascist, but that's a practice that, like you said, it only causes problems in society. The fascist impulse, the Hitler particle exists inside a lot of regular people and is reinforced by our social institutions especially the exploiting workplace.
There is a larger cultural issue at play here, but culture is dependent on the economic factors, and vice-versa
No, the fascists scapegoat minorities and direct that rage towards them. Rage can be sated vicariously and ICE, the police, and the military provide that when they are vicious to out groups. It functions like bottling it up in the long run though because that violence doesn't resolve any of the actual sources of that rage. Relief doesn't require an outlet for the rage but a resolution for its source.
Are you disagreeing with me? I agree with everything you say. Even your emphasis on subjective human emotion leading to objective action or consequence is spot on.
Fascism is a byproduct of capitalism. Oppressing outgroups is a needed function of the state, just like keeping a middle class is a needed function of a state, and the two functions are deeply connected.
Fascist rage is Middle class fear. Middle class fear comes from constant threat of financial ruin, and humiliation. Telling people not to show distress is a way of keeping people from sharing their distress, and organizing themselves along the material basis of that distress.
If something bad is happening at work, but something worse might happen if i sign a union card, then i might not sign that card. Hell, i'll probably even tell myself that its not that bad, I'll suck it up, its hard but thats what makes me deserve it, which means that other guy deserves what he got, which means the boss deserves what he got.
Then the boss gives me a manager position for being company material. And I'll tell the employees to suck it up when they have problems, because that's what I know. Fucking people over becomes a virtue, showing emotion or caring about people gets considered a weakness. And that suits the bosses, the capitalists, just fine. Sound familiar?
Fascism is just scab ideology. Its the belief that what is best for society is for me to screw over everyone around me, except the boss who abuses me a little less for it.
You say that violence doesn't fix the problem, but thats because it doesn't fix our problems. If, from someone's perspective, the problems of society are :
Then fascism might be the answer to the problem. Fascism isn't an idea in someone's brain, it is a set of circumstances in society. Problems in society make some people want to change society to eliminate the problems, and other people who want to benefit personally from the continuation of those problems, and creation of new ones. The first group wants to hear your grievances, and the second group wants to shut you up.
Have you ever read What is National Socialism?
It was intended more as a clarification than a disagreement, as I was focused on a different part of fascism when I read that and agree with your additions. It channels the anger away from the true causes towards scapegoats that have nothing to do with the problems, or that are tangentially related, or maybe the other side in some other (legitimate or not) conflict.
An important part of it is that they don't simply redirect the anger. They actively and intentionally create problems that lead to more anger, then redirect it.
How do you get everyone pissed off at illegal immigrants? You first create a system that makes legal immigration impossible for most while also propping up an economy that rewards the use of underpaid migrant laborers with no rights. Now that you've created a problem that involves migrants, you blame the migrants for all problems to drum up support for your movement.
And the beauty of it is, people don't have to be on your side. Once the debate over immigration gets fired enough, you've won. All the fighting over immigration is misdirection from your actual goals.
no,
telling them they are all patriarchal losers is clearly the path forwards for a truly just and happy society.
also gotta make sure they know they are only losers because of their privilege of having penis, and their existence is upsetting to economically privileged women who are offended that they aren't all wall st bankers.