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[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

EVs don't need to beat petrol vehicles in every way, in the same way that a sedan doesn't have to beat a minivan, or a laptop doesn't need to beat a smartphone.

a) EVs are getting relatively cheaper every year, while all vehicles are getting more expensive. b) They have range far in excess of what 90% of people use in a day. c) You can rent a vehicles for road trips if you really want to drive non-stop for dozens of hours at a time. d) Cold weather range isn't too bad, and batteries usually condition themselves now. EV's have a cold weather advantage in that they don't need to idle for 10-15 minutes to prevent danage to the engine. e) Charging infrastructure is already ubiquitous, you can plug them into any electrical outlet and charge dozens of kilometers overnight. That's zero fill-up time. Most residential parking infrastructure already has available plugs for block heaters and such, basically only street parking would ve annoying here. If you regularly drive more than dozens of kilometers in a day, you can get a larger charging plug from residential circuits, like clothes driers and ovens use, for a few hundred dollars, and all but guarantee a full charge every night. f) All else being equal EVs have better torque for towing, and unless the trailer is a giant billboard they don't effect highway efficiency too much. Most importantly, 90% of people never tow anything.

EVs have different strengths and weaknesses to petrol vehicles, and the millions of people who commute under 40 miles a day would find an EV cheaper and easier to own. EVs have many of the same weakness as petrol vehicles however, and insisting they have to fill the same niches makes that worse. You don't need to be reliant on fill stations, or have gigantic vehicles. EVs are best for smaller vehicles anyway, and smaller vehicles are better for roads and people's safety.

[–] LoveCanada@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Then explain to me (and remember Im an EV owner) why In 2025, zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs)—which include battery-electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles—accounted for only 8.7% of all new motor vehicles sold in Canada. Thats DOWN from over 13% the year before after most of the rebates dropped. Obviously, with 92% of new buyers NOT choosing them, they're not appealing to many, especially since they've had about 30 years to convince people.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 22 hours ago

People don't buy new cars every year.... And MVs sold probably also include fleet purchases.

[–] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Just bought my first EV, it was a bit steeper, but i expect to save $40,000 in maintenance and gas over the same 12 years i owned my previous car.

Cant imagine ever going back to ICE.

I'm curious where you are getting the sales drop, i see an increase: https://electricautonomy.ca/data-trackers/ev-sales-data/2026-03-13/zev-sales-in-canada-rise-to-11-2-per-cent-market-share-in-q4-2025-statscan/

New ZEV registrations across Canada hit 11.2 per cent market share in Q4 2025, according to the latest data from Statistics Canada.

While that is an increase over the 9.7 per cent market share of ZEVs from Q3 2025, it represents a drop in overall volume.

If i had to guess why, its due to the incentives starting to wind down (such as BC droping its sales tax rebate), the cost offset is reducing.

[–] LoveCanada@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Those are registrations of EVs not sales, so it includes all EVs sold to date. The actual sales of new EVs are declining says Stats Canada:

"Zero-emission vehicle sales: In 2025, 169,972 ZEVs were sold in Canada, a decline of 35.7% from 2024. This sharp decrease was likely influenced by changes to federal and provincial ZEV incentive programs. In particular, the suspension of the federal Incentives for Zero-Emission Vehicles program in January 2025, along with the reduction of rebates offered under Quebec's Roulez Vert program, likely contributed to lower ZEV demand in 2025.

In 2025, new ZEVs accounted for approximately 8.7% of all new motor vehicles sold in Canada. Again, this represents a significant decline from 2024, in which ZEVs accounted for 13.8% of new motor vehicle sales."

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/260316/dq260316c-eng.htm

There's nothing wrong with EVs for certain tasks, particularly commuting to work. But the uninformed claims that EVs are taking over gas cars and that a company is doomed if it doesnt jump into EVs is just silly. They're clearly NOT preferred by most buyers - and our north American automotive history is littered with many EV startups that have already tried and gone bankrupt. I think Lucid is on the brink just this week, and we've already seen Fisker, Canoo, Lordstown, Coda, Proterra, LION busses, Sparrow, Faraday and Nikola bite the dust. Electra Meccanica SOLO was designed and started in BC and its done too.

I even have a tiny bit of money invested in an EV startup but after 7 years of struggle Im heavily doubting they'll make it to mass market.

[–] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago

I definitely think if they were cost comprable, and they are headed in that direction, they will be the preferred option, but i agree that its happening a lot slower than I expected.

Thanks for the links!