Technology

I said it in another response, it isn't visits I'm talking about, it's about who generates content on the website and what percentage of those users use old.reddit.

It isn't copium either, we are speculating why Reddit keeps up the old version at all, after all this time they must have some analytics that it would significantly harm the site to disable it.

Honestly I find the website borderline unreadable.

On mobile website you haven’t been able to view and replies for a long time. On desktop it’s just so fucking stupid.

There's no objective data to confirm or dispel your suspicion that there are ~~zero~~ few human Redditors (your hyperbole aside).

There's definitely tons of bots posting and voting (and likely always has been), but I really doubt a large percentage of commenters are bots.

- A non-bot redditor

Idk the nish communities are really helpful, 3d printing, Photoshop help, all that kind of stuff. Hell I even was able to have my Dad's memorial pic photoshopped by somebody. It turned out good too

It really depends on the subreddits I think. It was starting to really go downhill before I was booted, but most of the issues floated around political, news and general subreddits from what I could tell.

Get into interests, like football or music and there seemed to be less rubbish and bot accounts so to speak. I guess this makes sense but that’s what I noticed going out the ban door as I was.

I just left last month, I'd say 30% users and rest bots

One thing I've noticed lurking on AITA is that there's suddenly more people casually talking about being religious. Not like overtly preaching like you'd see in the past, but more people referencing going to church or doing things for religious reasons.

It just seemed out of place and weird. Like the tone of that part of the internet suddenly changed. It's still more liberal than conservative, though that conflict seems to be mostly just not present, perhaps in part because of their rule against political topics, though even when some slip through, it does seem to lean more liberal or even progressive than conservative. Like plenty of abortion support, no broad support for tribal or hierarchical judgements. But it suddenly seems more religious. Christian, specifically.

You think there are still redditors around?

I think it’s just troll farms and bots. Every once in a while someone stumbles into the site and says something. THEN there is a whirlwind of answers/speculations/theories/lies.

I guess it depends on where you look. All the subs I've been visiting where people actually hang out, rather than just a handful of karma farmers spamming, are still flourishing*, so I never fully switched to Lemmy, but use both 🤷 Reddit subs have a magnitude or two more people, so imho they're better for news, memes and technical advice, while for the past couple years Lemmy feels better for insightful conversations.

* my main subs are for specific games and apps, a few countries/regions, and r/BestofRedditorUpdates, so ymmv

I think it’s just troll farms and bots

It's mostly the most frequented subreddits that are being brigaded and farmed.

Of course there are redditors around; I'm another one of them. We frequent the cool subs like the very human /r/FreeGameFindings and ignore the rest of the noise. Milk Reddit for the best of what it has to offer and dismiss the rest. I see nothing wrong with this approach for as long as Lemmy is still budding, relatively speaking.

I haven't checked how big the ones that I still frequent there (like /r/manybaggers and /r/onebag) but they do still have organic real people posts. Anything news, tech, or politics, anything of that size, I just abandon any hope they're not troll infested and LLM bots. Not to mention meme subs and themed artwork subs. Just full of vote farming bots. I need the art source, you dinguses!

On the bright side, /r/sbcgaming have a comms here and can also tie into retrogaming

As well as flashlights.

Not at all. I'm comparing the vast majority that only consume to a small minority that actually interact and provide the content that others consume. Without that minority all that would be left is bot comments.

Reddit pushes an ad and tracking infested app to make money off the consumers while doing the minimum to keep the content submitters on the site even if they make no money off them. I wouldn't be surprised if old reddit was a couple percent of users but 25% of the comments that aren't bots.

Use the Slide fork!

Two things I noticed was most subreddits that weren't front pagers are getting way less traffic than they used to across the entire site.

The other is why I left: I saw a front page millions of subscribers subreddit go out of their way to temporarily bot purge during the IPO* drama. Upvotes went from 10k+ to...hundreds. Posting frequency fell off a cliff. It was so disturbing I left because I saw that in conjunction with Benn Jordan's video estimating how much of xshitter was bot traffic which he estimated to be a full third of all traffic on xshitler a year ago.

I've read this exact comment a hundred and one times before you just wrote it. The average end user does not care. We are a vocal minority.

I'm not defending reddit, nor care if reddit dies, but you are saying shit as if it is fact and not providing any sources to back up anything you are saying, and it might as well be reading nonsense from a Facebook MAGA boomer