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[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

There's also the unfortunate consideration that she's a woman. A black woman. That's like playing on hardcore+ permadeath mode when it comes to elections...

I wish it wasn't that way but it's the reality in the US if you want a meaningful shot of winning... There is an unfortunate amount of voters who just won't vote for a woman or a POC...

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

i reject this stance. the same thing is said about a black president. and women make up 50 % of the vote base.

especially since this is a talking point of operatives who seek a gender based wedge.

and also moot when there were a lot of issues whith both women candidates who were the democrats primary candidates in the last few presidential elections. these issues supersede all other reasons. the internal reports point to the backing of a genocide and aligning with establishment democrats, the ultra wealthy, and her “tough on crime” stance that is by design targeting minorities.

AND AND she lost by a narrow margin, male nominees have lost by FAR MORE then she did

do not accept such arguments

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah rejecting it doesn't make it false... Just because 50% of the voting base are women doesn't mean they're feminists. There's a lot of internalized misogyny.

Obama was a bridge too far for a ton of American voters and he was only a well educated light skinned black man... He still ticked all the other boxes for an American president. A female president is beyond the pale for a lot of Americans.

The Democrats are welcome to deny reality, ignore candidate popularity during primaries, kill all other candidate potential, and then lose the presidency again and act confused about why that happened... I guess the big thing they have going for them is trump isn't allowed to run a 3rd time so the trump cult candidate will be a weaker option compared to trump himself.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

what makes it false is the idea that she lost because she was a woman.

the numbers do not agree

it is a sexiest point because it pushes the thought that democrats can not run female candidates if they want to win.

this is provably false, even considering misogyny. and like i said, is sourced from political operatives looking for a wedge. misogyny is just not that influential.

Harris was polling to win the election, up until the listed slights against the progressive base.

you can see that even within the democratic party a push to reaffirm conservative power by reassigning failures of the party on such things like inclusiveness, sexism, racism, ect. they attempted to hide the result of their internal investigation that counters their talking points.

it is also a thought terminating accusation with no one to blame and fights against progression in this regard. and should be shouted down when ever and where ever it crops up.