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https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/ex-cia-whistleblower-the-nsa-audited
Apologies if I'm not a regular reader of Jörmungandr, but I need this from a more reputable source. I want to take in whats being said, but recognize the importance of trust and how that applies to a modern information landscape driven by fraud, conspiracy and AI.
If this is real, its going to need to break through in a more traditional manner.
Yeah, it does the usual loop where snopes says it's fake and then random other shitty sources say it's fake.
There are a few problems now with sourcing:
All that being said, none of this can be proven, so I wouldn't trust it either. Also, it tells me that we need to protect Wikipedia.
Maybe 404 Media.
But yeah, it really doesn't matter. Follow it through to its conclusion. Say we have the evidence and can prove the election was stolen. What of it? Trump will just apologize and step down? Will it undo all the damage done so far? And say you do follow the thread and the evidence doesn't stack up? Then what are you left with?
You're right 404 media should be on that list too. They're very good.
No, he would never do that, lol. He's not going to step down from this term unless he dies from natural causes.
"Natural" you say? That includes lead poisoning, right?
It's important internationally in ways that would have domestic impact. If the market loses confidence in the US the tide cannot be stemmed. Kill trade, tourism and the dollar faster. Most importantly an unending bond sell off.
This also legitimizes resistance and sets up the moral high ground for the next stage everyone is waiting for.
The best I could find outside of snopes is a reasonable dive into the material by another redditor:
https://www.reddit.com/r/50501Movement/comments/1mfs6i4/debunked_excia_whistleblower_the_nsa_audited_the/
Tldr:
"Remember, there could be valid facts mixed in with all of this. That’s how conspiracy theories work. They pull together real facts and truth and then mix it all up with allegations and unfounded theories to come to a completely outlandish conspiracy. There very well could be issues with election machines. I think there’s some credible evidence that the 2024 election was tampered with.
However, this specific claim holds no water. There is no proof that this man ever worked for the CIA. There is no proof that he conducted an audit with the NSA.
And further, the more of his work you read, the more clear it becomes that he is just another terminally online conspiracy wacko which should kill all of his credibility."
That isn't going great. They have a lot of staff living in the US and a Musk problem.
This thing about the hashing doesn't pass the sniff test for me in terms of evidence.
Like yeah, no shit it has to be considered dynamic unless you're using the same fucking hash for every fucking machine out there which is far more egregious than having a hash being listed as dynamic because, get this, it would be different for each system.
So I don't know, this sounds bog standard to me and indeed didn't affect things like voting tallies. People keep making hay about this, but until I see a lot more damning evidence, this sounds like people making the voting software actually doing the right thing.
I don't know, maybe that's just me. I am of the mind that a lot of us just don't want to face how deeply fucked in the head so many of the US populace are or how broken our voting systems already were beyond electronic voting. People have been getting dumped from voter rolls right before the election for decades, voting locations are shut down and people wait in long lines, we work people non-stop and don't give days off for election days and are shocked when young people, highly dependent on their new jobs, can't show up to vote. They didn't need to rig electronic voting when shit like gerrymandering, kicking folks of voter roles, scrutinizing signatures, and pretending like they have to be super sure people are who they say they are all results in a ton of fucking people being denied a chance to actually vote and have their vote matter.
The claims can be audited. I was hoping to see subpoenas or something after this broke then was expanded on in the article I linked here. But no, we have a handful of lawsuits getting slow rolled. I suspect we will get an answer in the form of paper ballots disappearing should someone manage to trigger a full recount. It's been months and this regime has no issue destroying evidence.
I thought about this for a while and realistically, if this happened, the only way you're going to prove it after the fact is if one of the nerds who helped flips or one of the rich shot callers kept evidence. Incompetence of DOGE could save the day but really where are there still going to be logs in another 6 months?
Well the thing that always sticks with me about "the nerds" is that each state runs its own elections and as such, has multiple election cybersecurity teams all over each state. The idea that they had what amounts to literally thousands of these nerds all over the country that all were in on it, all used zero-day exploits that were unknown, and all kept their mouths shut is just, well... it's definitely bordering on absurdly impossible for that many people to be involved and no one is popping off with evidence. Further security teams aren't just one person, so it would have to be every single person on every single security team and if there is one thing nerds with security credentials take seriously, it's security!
Downvoted by shills, bots, trolls, et al?
Not that it's going to matter, honestly.
Lots of people hate the idea because Trump has been screaming this without proof for years and they don't want to be the same. But it isn't. Trump didn't have any drop off votes to point to and he got his recounts anyway. The Russians, who hacked in at scale multiple times over a decade, were only ever helping one guy.
And here there are specific claims that can be checked and have not been. Recounts, subpoena TrippLite, the NSA, Eaton Corp, etc...
None of the above, but not going to blindly believe anything I read on a random blog on the internet though. Please have a little more logic/skepticism than MAGA at least. Follow ETA or SMART for more reasonable analyses, but still take those with a big grain of salt, because they could also just be grifters out for donations (or they could be legit).
Crazy that it's been proven the election was stolen, but Neoliberals have conditioned idiots to pretend that the process is infallible, so the truth is ignored.