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America rejected Hillary and Kamala because they were empty-suit neolibs who campaigned on ignoring the working class' problems, not because they were women.
I hope you are right
Also, because the voting public is dumb AF. Not actually voting on principle, ideology, or policy. Simply voting against whoever is perceived as in power. If they feel the government isn't helping them. Even if it means voting for someone who will be objectively worse for them.
Exactly the opposite, actually. Not all principles have value. Any principle that would have you not help the people you can because it would be unfair to the people you can't has no value. Anything purported to be virtue in that vein is just signaling.
Until such time as state and federal governments are depredicated. The calcified concentrated power and resources shattered and returned to the people. Refusing to do the minimum you could to help anyone and show solidarity. Is no virtue or principle worth mentioning.
Even If neoliberals are no ally to anyone but themselves. If you couldn't be bothered to vote for Clinton or Harris in the general election. To keep the person actually attacking minorities from office. You are even less of an ally to trans gays and minorities of every stripe. Unless you're actually doing something concrete like leading bloody revolution in the streets to help them.
That's because there should be no president, no governor, no senator. The more power becomes concentrated. The more it necessarily becomes a choice of the lesser evil. Failing to take concrete action in the face of that. Is nothing to crow about or admonish others for not following.
I live in a blue patch of a red county in a red state. A state that just tried and failed to take what little non existent representation we had away. By making our districting worse. Believe me I know intimately what it's like to feel like your vote doesn't matter. I could take schadenfreude at those usually isolated from their poor decisions in blue states. Facing concrete negative consequences. Re illegal deployment of national guard etc. Or ICE brown shirts. But I don't. And honestly there's not a lot more people in blue states could do beyond not campaigning against the best possibly achievable option. Living in a blue state isn't a right, it's a privilege. It's easy to forget and become detached from others.
Voting won't fix anything on it's own. It's not even half the equation. Without being or supporting the people worth voting for. Voting can only slow disintegration at best. When it comes to herculean lifts like corrupt national offices. It's gonna take us all working together. If there are elections next year or after. I have some small hope. But only time will tell.
And elected Trump twice because he obviously was full-suit man of the people with so many swell ideas about working class.
Americans, you see, are voting based on economical policies rooted in reality.
He was the only candidate in the general 2016 talking about jobs. His opposition's slogan was "America is Already Great". In 2024, his opposition was arguing she would better implement his signature policies of ~~imperialism~~the most lethal military and ~~cruelty towards brown people~~securing the border.
Honestly, yes.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha HA HA HA. Nobody has ever won an election in this country through the working class, dude.
Imagine being so ignorant of history that you forgot about FDR.
Yeah that’s a ton of bullshit.
Yeah. Truth is they probably would have focused on making working class problems worse, just like Billy boy.
Not even close. The most I will give him is that he was closer to FDR than any of the Democrats in-between. Ideologically, FDR 1.0 had ambitions for what an FDR 2.0 could do, and Biden wasn't it. Biden barely moved the needle to reclaim any of the things Democrats lost us in the intervening years. Operationally, Biden had none of FDR's zeal to actually get things done. Biden needed to be far more Machiavellian and, because he wasn't, his agenda was stalled and the architects of January 6 were emboldened to try again.
These two videos do a better and more entertaining job than I can to lay out why Democratic reform is absolutely necessary to get us out of the mess we are in. If Democratic voters don't learn extremely quickly, this America has no chance at all.
https://youtu.be/lxzosX50Aes
https://youtu.be/zBUxIa_5cuM
Gotta use those sarcasm tags. Too many people still buy that garbage. :/