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Also, because the voting public is dumb AF. Not actually voting on principle, ideology, or policy. Simply voting against whoever is perceived as in power. If they feel the government isn't helping them. Even if it means voting for someone who will be objectively worse for them.
Exactly the opposite, actually. Not all principles have value. Any principle that would have you not help the people you can because it would be unfair to the people you can't has no value. Anything purported to be virtue in that vein is just signaling.
Until such time as state and federal governments are depredicated. The calcified concentrated power and resources shattered and returned to the people. Refusing to do the minimum you could to help anyone and show solidarity. Is no virtue or principle worth mentioning.
Even If neoliberals are no ally to anyone but themselves. If you couldn't be bothered to vote for Clinton or Harris in the general election. To keep the person actually attacking minorities from office. You are even less of an ally to trans gays and minorities of every stripe. Unless you're actually doing something concrete like leading bloody revolution in the streets to help them.
That's because there should be no president, no governor, no senator. The more power becomes concentrated. The more it necessarily becomes a choice of the lesser evil. Failing to take concrete action in the face of that. Is nothing to crow about or admonish others for not following.
I live in a blue patch of a red county in a red state. A state that just tried and failed to take what little non existent representation we had away. By making our districting worse. Believe me I know intimately what it's like to feel like your vote doesn't matter. I could take schadenfreude at those usually isolated from their poor decisions in blue states. Facing concrete negative consequences. Re illegal deployment of national guard etc. Or ICE brown shirts. But I don't. And honestly there's not a lot more people in blue states could do beyond not campaigning against the best possibly achievable option. Living in a blue state isn't a right, it's a privilege. It's easy to forget and become detached from others.
Voting won't fix anything on it's own. It's not even half the equation. Without being or supporting the people worth voting for. Voting can only slow disintegration at best. When it comes to herculean lifts like corrupt national offices. It's gonna take us all working together. If there are elections next year or after. I have some small hope. But only time will tell.