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[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 20 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Wasn't the "bigger" argument that it was trans people? And then there was news about the shooter allegedly having a trans partner (no idea if it was ever confirmed or not).

Almost makes it better honestly

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 45 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (4 children)

He was asked what portion of gun crimes were by trans people, and he retorted with "are we counting gang violence?"

So he was losing an argument about trans people and was trying to shift to blaming black people.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 37 minutes ago

He was asked what portion of gun crimes were by trans people, and he retorted with “are we counting gang violence?”

All those trans gang members out there committing gun crimes! Why ... there's probably nearly half a dozen of them in the country!

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 42 points 3 hours ago

Charlie died the way he lived. Spewing bullshit.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Equating gang violence with black people is racist as shit.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 23 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Admittedly that dog whistle was an assumption I made. He didn't finish his thought.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The point he was making is that the vast majority of violence in America takes place in gang warfare, and if you're not in a gang, it is far less of a personal concern than it might otherwise appear. I know this because it's a common one that these kind of people make all the time.

It's a bad point because it basically implies that gang violence doesn't matter.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 37 minutes ago

It's also false

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 hours ago

"counting or not counting gang violence" *proceeds to lean left

I mean I'm sure he'd be fine with that collateral damage but his whole "gang violence negates white mass shooters" was an argument he repeated often.