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[–] soratoyuki@piefed.zip 41 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Davis describes herself as a trans refugee. Back in Texas, she says, lived in a "pretty hostile and frankly dangerous" place. "I had a lot of close calls, a lot of threats."

Wilbur also describes himself as a "refugee." He relates an experience that is a virtual mirror image of Davis'. In Seattle, the local conservative talk show host — who also briefly served as Washington state Republican chair — felt like a stranger in a strange land.

Virtual mirror image, indeed.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And when they talk about how dangerous the cities are:

For instance, some conservative groups are trying to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the U.S. Supreme Court's landmark 2015 ruling that established same-sex marriage as a constitutional right. McCranie says some of his clients are wondering, "Where would we be safe as a couple and as a family?"

Yeah. Total mirror image indeed.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, but think of how oppressive it must feel to be surrounded by people who don't arbitrarily hate entire groups of other humans...

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I took my very hetero straight family to church yesterday and we shared a table with a young gay couple for lunch. My gosh it was soo terrible having a nice conversation with them. I could even let my kids go off and play without them being molested by a priest like god intended. /s

The day before we went to the pride parade and there was a guy in the street spewing hate before it started. I went up and asked if he thinks he is saying anything we haven't heard before and all he really said was "free speech" in defense. I told him your speech is worthless if that's your defense and walked away. He didn't hang around after he saw me pointing him out to my kids. They have so much pride in their shame.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

I feel like we need to start a movement to make Christianity illegal so that we can end on the compromise of "mind your own fucking business." A huge portion of this asymmetry seems to stem from the fact that liberals and leftists never go on offense, so when things reduce to maximalist bullshit there no leverage in negotiating the social contract.

[–] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

'I fled my state because of death threats'

'I felt ostracized by my neighbors because they weren't comfortable with my racism.'

These things are totally equal to republicans, unfortunately.

[–] Monument@piefed.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

A neighbor once aggressively confronted my wife and I to tell us not to walk past his house. Our offense was that some time prior we had laughed at his Trump flags (yup, multiple) while walking our dogs and he heard us through his Ring cameras while spying on the neighborhood.

In the course of the interaction, the person made veiled threats against us and our dogs, and repeatedly tried to tell us where we could and could not exist. It’s a public sidewalk. Obviously we did not alter our route, but I did start carrying a knife and making sure the dogs were not eating anything her may have put down and that we were consummately courteous (cleaning up pet mess, making sure they didn’t tromp into landscaping, etc).

Mind you, this was before Trump took office the second time. He took those flags down by April 2025 and later apologized to me - telling me the flag removal was a removal of support for Trump.

Which is great, but his vague threats could have been construed as death threats. Our ‘threat’ to him was a threat to his ego.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

He took those flags down by April 2025 and later apologized to me - telling me the flag removal was a removal of support for Trump.

This is far far more than you'll ever get from most of them

[–] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 4 points 1 month ago

Exactly.

These people don't understand that fundamentally their behavior is unacceptable.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Surprising a Trump supporter would live anywhere with a sidewalk

[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

So one person feels slightly uncomfortable and the other one literally lives in fear because of threats. Yeah, totally similar scenarios.