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Email ownership, I give up. (lemmy.today)

submitted 1 month ago by altphoto@lemmy.today to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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I give up.

I tried left and right to try to install an email server so I could degoogle my life.

But therechnical barrier is thick and Google keeps adding more to it. Forget it. I can't even get thru the installation process much less trying to get my shit off Google.

I figure, I don't actually have any need for my email addresses. Just like my phone number. I never call anyone. I'm going to discourage my kids from using email at all. I'll remind everyone I know that I don't use email at every opportunity I get just like I remind people to not call me and that my phone number is not available.

Between spammers and Google, I just don't need this headache in my life. My mom is much less technically savvy than the average pet. So Google will just siphon her data and when the megabits are full then you just delete the old stuff.

You don't need it. No one will spend their life reading your emails when you're gone or watching your videos or listening to your recordings or viewing your photos. There's no need to worry about just deleting the pile of shit you've accumulated. I'm this done.

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[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

Short answer: IMAP and the mbsync tool (aka "isync"). It can sync between two IMAP accounts or between IMAP and local storage (either/both ways).

If you just want syncing between two IMAP accounts there's also imapsync, which is available both as a program and as an online service run by the guy who maintains the program, priced as "pay what you want", which can migrate your inbox on the fly to another service.

What I've done myself is to run mbsync periodically (made myself a custom Alpine image with cron and mbsync) to bring emails over. Added an IMAP server container on top of the local copy of the emails (tons of options, Dovecot is popular). Added a webmail app behind reverse proxy, talking to the IMAP server on a private docker network (Roundcube). And a Borg Backup job to take an extra backup (incremental, deduplicated and encrypted) of the email archive.

In theory I could also connect the webmail to the SMTP of whatever email provider I'm currently using and be able to use it to also send. I don't do that because I have email clients connected to the provider on both desktop and phone so it's not a requirement, but I could if I wanted to.

This approach lets me periodically trim down the emails stored at the provider to only the most recent. This lets me also use providers that offer small amounts of storage. My recent emails are available instantly through IMAP to the provider. Starting within last 24h and going back forever they're available at the archive webmail.

I can switch email providers at any time as fast as DNS records propagate (because I use @my.own.domains) and as fast as I can update the IMAP/SMTP credentials for my phone/desktop/mbsync.