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I agree with you that the Epstein case is relatively small compared to the millions of people who Trump is causing to suffer. However, the Epstein files also seem to be the first thing that cracked his base of political support. It is a weakness that anyone against Trump should exploit, not because it's the most important issue, but because it's the one that is most likely to remove him from power.
Deporting immigrants, locking up trans people, outlawing abortion, destroying free speech and political opposition, supporting genocide... These are all things that his base WANTS. They rejoice in the suffering of the "other". They care about the economy too, but they're told dumb to realize that Trump is the problem.
That's all well and good, but like I said, keep it the fuck out of serious conversation, especially on here. There aren't gonna be many Trumpers on this platform, as leftists and queer people are such a major population that they'd struggle to tolerate it. At most there are very mild conservatives who are usually not beyond reaching with actual arguments. I would get this argument more if we were on a corpo platform, but on this one you're just distracting from issues we actually care about.
edit: spelling
The thing I hate most about Lemmy is what a fucking circlejerk it is.
I know people are gonna read this and make deeply frowny faces and try to poke me with their little arrows but we have to get better about identifying what a fucking bubble we all fall into.
These kinds of sites are the same as what the right uses, but the left gets far less out of them for affecting change and good outcomes. They're feed-troughs to get people gathered together, getting their feelings out of their system, without actually going out and challenging power and facing the opposition. It's like when you have a great idea for a novel and you tell your bored friends all about it and that gets the inspiration out of your system so you never pursue it.
It is true that Lemmy sucks for having substantial reach. If I wanted to reach the largest possible audience for advocacy's sake, I would use corpo socials. They optimize for the largest reach because that's where they make money, so it's hard for a non profit effort to compete.
However, that's not why I use Lemmy. I don't use it for building a mass movement, but for building community free of corporate interference. A place where we don't have fascists debating the existence of trans people. This isn't a town square, but a collection of punk clubs that kick Nazis out without needing to appeal to some landlord.
Also, in case you haven't noticed, the Overton Window is being legally pushed to the right by the largest English speaking government in the world. There is no freedom of speech or dissent, and corporate media will fully cooperate with the government in their efforts to ban any left wing organizing. There is no marketplace of ideas to debate in on those platforms, as even when there wasn't open fascism like now, the right were always given more leeway to be radical. Pre musk Twitter protected fascist accounts like Libs of Tik Tok while those accounts now run both the government and the companies.
At least here we can always rebuild if instances get censored. At least here we can be more than censored opposition.