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Self-hosted keypass fork recommendation (lemmy.today)

submitted 1 week ago by altphoto@lemmy.today to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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I'm using Vaultgarden. Things are okay after losing my SSD yesterday morning. My strategy worked... HDD for data, SSD for the OS. I promptly found an available drive, installed Linux mint and recovered.

But that was scary. I keep a backup on another computer. The only way to actually run it and see the passwords needed to do anything was thru my phone. I was lucky that somehow the database was available offline. But if I had run out of battery I would be extremely screwed.

So I've decided the Vaultgarden is encumbered by not really having a local reliable copy. Maybe I'm wrong, but as I understand, if your server goes down and you log out, you're screwed... No more passwords until your server is up again. I find that to be extremely stupid unless I was protecting my severed testicles... No wait, that would be way worse.

So I'd there a server + local system? Like Joplin... You can write notes all day with no server at all. The server just Synchronizes it all. In the past I used syncthing and I will continue using it. One thought was to have an automated backup from Vaultgarden that was automatically synced to my various devices as a Keypass database.

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[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Vaultwarden?

You can write notes all day with no server at all. The server just Synchronizes it all.

Yes, that's exactly how it works right now. Clients will keep a local copy of the database, so even if the server goes away for a while, you can still use it.

But you had the backup, you restored it, everything worked properly. I'm not sure what the issue is here.

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Just don't count on the current Bitwarden client being compatible with Vaultwarden forever. Bitwarden's new CEO is pushing to make more profit wherever possible, and recently rescinded the statement from the company's website that the client would be free forever.

They'll never be able to walk back the open source nature of the product, but they can choose to make their client incompatible with Vaultwarden and push for the centrally hosted option as the only option.

Not sure if anyone's forked the Bitwarden client yet, but that's how I'd start using Vaultwarden if the option exists.

Or, you know, skip the headache and just start using Keepass.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

I have the same feelings about it. For now, the system does function very well.

[–] 45o3b@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

It looks like there are 1900 forks on GitHub.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just feel uneasy about not knowing exactly where the database is and how to keep it safe. I thought that database just went poof if you logged out.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

It's on your server, and whenever you keep your backup. I don't know if it keeps a local copy on your phone when you log out or not. Generally I just don't log out.