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‘CEO whisperer’ says US tycoons are privately anxious of Trump’s ‘Maoist’ leadership
(www.independent.co.uk)
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So you're going to be rude instead of making a point?
I didn't define anything dipshit the other person did and I responded.
I asked how they were different not the same, you should read the comment chain rather then be rude for no fucking reason.
I am making the point. The point is that you can't just take a handful of things Mao did, that tons of other people have also done, and say that anyone who does those things is a "Maoist." Whether it's "making a plan to promote industrialization with government involvement" or "writing words."
Virtually every country that went through a period of industrialization would be "Maoist" by this standard.
Yeah and that's part of the problem. Because you have no understanding of what the label you're using actually means.
The onus is on you to demonstrate how they're similar. It's like if someone said, "In what way is a raven different from a writing desk?" They're so different that it's virtually impossible to convince of any line of thought that would see them as similar.
Yeah that's why I didn't do that, keep up.
Ok so we're agreed then that Trump isn't a Maoist.
That was never something I said or implied you boisterous dolt, read the comment chain then get rude if that's your prerogative.
So when you said, "I’m not trying to be mean but how in practice is this substantially different than Maoism?" you weren't implying that Trump is a Maoist?
Yeah and we've gotten down to the fact the only functional difference is stretching towards socialism. So in practice they aren't functionally different a farmer losing their farm is generally unconcerned about what form of government did it in the long run.
Lol no we haven't. We have not even begun a serious discussion about it.
To establish that they are at all similar, you need to establish the similarities between Trump's actions and Maoism, beyond, "They both made plans to industrialize" which is true of countless countries around the world that had nothing to do with Maoism. As I said, by your standard, Emperor Meiji would be a Maoist, which is absurd.
Since you have not, and refuse to do this, then obviously you have no real basis for making that claim. They are so different that it's utterly bizarre that anyone would ever compare the two.
On the one hand, someone who came to power via a revolution in a poor and undeveloped country with the support of landless agricultural workers who then redistributed land from the landlords to the peasants and then moved to develop the economy. On the other hand, a billionaire landlord who came to power in a rich developed country through a bourgeois election with the support of the wealthy who has, rather than giving poor agricultural workers their own farms, has been deporting them en masse to foreign prisons.
They are opposites in virtually every respect and the only similarities you've found are entirely superficial or are true of virtually everyone. This comparison is baseless, ignorant nonsense, and anyone making it has zero understanding of anything.
We have, you injected yourself into a conversation you clearly don't understand nor does it seem that you care to.
No, all I have to ask is how in practice they are functioning differently. We do not in fact need to approach this is the dumbest most time consuming way.
I haven't refused anything, I will say if you had any social skills and didn't immediately get preachy and rude you'd probably get a lot farther off discussion was your actual intent which clearly it is not.
Get out your feelings, keep up with the conversation and moreover drop the preachy rude bullshit.
Forgive me for expecting an extremely basic level of political literacy.
How is a penguin different from Neptune? Clearly the assumption should be that they're the same until proven otherwise. This is how conversations work.
I expected some amount of reading comprehension from you so I guess we both got let down huh?
You still missed the key word ie. In practice.
You're either a troll or a legitimate fucking moron either way you really aught to take the l and go awa. At the very least calm down enough that you bother to read and absorb anything you've read because at this point you clearly aren't.
And you haven't shown anything that I've actually failed to comprehend.
That doesn't change anything. Unless Trump has redistributed land to the poor while I wasn't looking?
Says the person who just claimed that Trump is a Maoist on the basis that Maoism is when you industrialize. I genuinely hope you're a troll because otherwise, Jesus Christ.
Except the times I did, that's the reason comprehension issue I'm talking about. Good job pointing it out I guess?
It does. He doesn't need to to prove my point.
Point to one time I said turbo trump was a maoist you absolute buffoon.
100% trolling, gotcha.
Yes, your inability to quote a single instance of the things you claim is proof I'm trolling. Great logic there dumbass.
I literally already did, before you even asked. Apparently you don't have the reading comprehension and need to reread the thread.
Or rather, you can read and do know that you're wrong and are just trolling.
Is that what that sentence says or are you reading into it. To me plain English is plain English so a statement is a statement and a question is a question. I haven't actually put forth my opinion at all.
You haven't quoted me a single time genius.
Can you even find your own insult or are you just going to "I'm rubber you're glue" through this inane conversation?
Troll gonna troll.
You're pathetic.
Where does it say trump is a maoist you fuckin buffoon.
You said, "you haven't quoted me once." I have, in fact, quoted you, so that's blatantly false.
Obviously, this whole time you've been arguing that position, and even when I directly asked this, you refused to answer. You're still refusing to answer.
You're just playing games, and I have no interest in it. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Don't spend this whole conversation arguing something and then say, "Well, I never actually said it outright" when you can't defend it just to save face. It's pathetic and dishonest.
You haven't quoted me saying Trump is a maoist, context clues bud they're part of that reading comprehension thing you seem to have issues with.
Asking how they're are substantially different is not saying they're the same thing, you're being obtuse or you're just straight up fuckin dumb. In fact I'm implying there is no functional difference just an ideological one. I tend not to answer obvious questions that are answered simply by reading.
I'm not playing games, in fact you came to me with a misconception you've accepted but not apologized for. I never said or implied it at all. Read dragons into repair manuals if you want but I'm pretty sure you'd be missing the point.
I'm always impressed by the level of effort people will put into mental and rhetorical gymnastics to avoid admitting they don't know what the fuck they're talking about rather than putting half that effort into actually studying the thing they're talking about.
You wouldn't have to play these games if you just read a fucking book.
Agreed. Basic English "substantially similar" and "exactly the same" are two wildly different concepts and definitions. You missed the point and now you're bending over backwards to try to dig yourself out of the idiot hole you've dug for yourself.
No one is playing games and moreover if we were and you're this annoyed then maybe you should stop playing take your ball and go home like a big boy.
Live in ignorance then. Bye.
A saying you live by I'm quite sure.
And you think you have the high ground to pass moral judgement on others, strangers in fact. So perhaps there are 3 that should reflect on their actions then huh?
I'm genuinely curious if you really believe that they were never arguing that Trump was a Maoist, as they're now suggesting. Like when you read where they said:
Have I actually "misread" or "misinterpreted" that? What other interpretation exists?
They're just playing games and acting coy because they know they can't actually defend what they said. It's clear bad faith, and I tend to react with hostility towards that. They're just good enough at operating in bad faith to muddy the waters.
I realize now how uninterested I am in involving myself here and have deleted my comments. Good luck to both of you.