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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I paid off my old phone early and got a grapheneOS phone ASAP just because of these motherfuckers.

Hell, I was firmly in the Android camp specifically because of the open source nature of their software. I never made the apps I wanted to make, but I like having the option to do so.

So you can go fuck yourself, google. Yes my phone is a Googlepixel 10 because they work best with grapheneOS. In a few years if I can I will get a Linux phone.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm really hoping we get a hard fork of AOSP that gets really popular.

[–] BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

it's called GrapheneOS.

it gets popular by you installing it and telling your friends

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Im already doing that but we don't have big players selling it in stores.

[–] BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago

yeah, the problem with a pre-installed OS is that you don't know what's in it, the carrier could have installed a fork or spyware that defeats the purpose of GrapheneOS.

it's much more secure to download, verify, and install the OS to your phone yourself.

hopefully people wake up to all the bad-faith surveillance happening and become willing to take that step, which is much easier than it sound

[–] laurenceOfSuburbia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why graphene? Lineage os much more popular and supports many more devices.

U can't trust Google hardware

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Don't let the grapheme crowd hear you. Maybe Motorola will work it out.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would a hard fork not splinter the software support, killing the ecosystem? E.g. some devs only support that hard fork, others only the android compatible version.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would be fine with that split. That would be an almost ideal situation even, and a thin compatibility layer like proton or even just an invisible container system similar to docker or flatpak could handle getting more of android onto the fork when it all stops being completely compatible. More effort but hopefully only needed short term.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hardware compatibility is the major problem with alternative android. Basically I have to buy a 10 year old used phone as is. Would this only make this worse?

Anyway, maybe AI code generation could actually help with things like hardware compatibility. Things like an AI agent could iterate on reading about a smartphone model and testing various configurations and patch drivers to make it compatible for many more devices. Not sure if AI is suitable for that, but you should be able to define stringent test cases for this.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

AI can't code around missing security chips and features in hardware.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago

Well if that's what is holding up more hardware compatibility for open android.

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They do make a small profit off those phones, while you could've simply hit them where it counts with ad-blocking and tracker protection.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Which helps contribute to resale value which contributes to initial sale value.