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cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1247209/all-cars-sold-in-the-eu-now-require-a-camera-aimed-at-your-face-its-still-not-clear-wher

Starting July 7, 2026, every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera aimed at your face. Glance at your phone, your kids in the back seat, or the radio for too long, and the car will flash a warning light and sound an alert.

Automakers have known this was coming for years. What they, and EU regulators, have never spelled out is what happens to that footage after the alert goes off.

While the intention behind the new system is difficult to dispute, its implementation has raised several concerns. Early real-world testing suggests the distraction warnings can be overly sensitive and potentially distracting.

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I dont like being constantly monitored. I dont want to normalize the lack of privacy.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If it really was a low res camera that didn't phone home, save data, and was difficult to hack into, for me personally the benefits would outweigh the (limited) privacy malus.

Everyone thinks they're a good driver, but collisions still happen, and no one deserves to be killed by someone in a car.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If it was a closed circuit that had no way of sending info to anyone anywhere that would be one thing, but data is the new gold and, I dont trust governments or private businesses enough to give them access to a camera on me whenever I am driving.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 14 hours ago

Me neither. It's a big if.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

my phones are pin or pattern only

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Iphone SE's didnt have face unlock but still use the IR camera to scan your face every second.

Just because you don't use it doesn't mean it's not being used on you (apologies for breaking it to you)

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Apologies for not using Apple products

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Oh nah no need to apologise, their products haven't been good for decades. Merely making a point about how tech can be entirely hidden from the user

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I just learned about internetless TVs that build mesh networks until one TV is found that can access the internet... that sounds like infiltrating a WiFi network and should be illegal.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Wait until you hear about the facial recognition and expression reading cameras built into the fast food 'order here' screens

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

Another place where I never go. I'm starting to feel proud about my decision making about now...

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I do a pass code, but yeah, no finger prints or shudders facial scans

[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Am i the only one using the simple slide up to unlock?

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Honestly, I would guess you're one of a very small minority, yeah. Because phones get lost, stolen, or confiscated by fascist "law enforcement" pretty commonly. Or someone you know picks it up while you're gone.

Most people like a degree of privacy. Even my grandma has a pin on her phone.

[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah I've noticed that most people are rather baffled when i say i have no passcode or anything on my phone.

I just find that the risk of any of the affirmationd things happening is low enough that it doesn't outweigh the annoyance that comes from entering passcodes tens of times a day.

But I'm not in the USA so risk profiles are slightly different.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 0 points 23 hours ago

Most people like a degree of privacy.

313 million people have Meta accounts.

Some simple patterns code can be very quick to do, and not much different from a slide up, while still keeping most people out.

[–] civilfolly@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would suggest to start practicing to say goodbye to privacy, bank accounts, etc etc etc etc etc, when your phone is stolen.

[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bank account does have a passcode, mandatory. Steam as well. Privacy is kinda irrelevant, what's a random thief going to do with my messages or grocery list?

Good thing i have a phone that's not really marketable and thus not really tempting anyone to steal it.

But how likely is it that a phone gets stolen? Of course that might depend on a location, but locally that's an anomaly. So it's the old point of security feature itself becoming a bigger nuisance than the threat of whatever it's trying to protect me from.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I dont like being constantly monitored

Then stay off public roads. Traffic lights, stop signs are just THE MAN telling us what to do.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

What a false equivalence...