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[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ok, after some closer look, it could resemble the SS "Mützenabzeichen", but it could also just be a generic skull.

BTW, the British atme are no nazis are they? https://www.army.mod.uk/learn-and-explore/about-the-army/corps-regiments-and-units/royal-armoured-corps/royal-lancers/

I can not say what exactly that tattoo was there is no clear image I found, so I can not jump to conclusions in any direction.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The British symbol looks nothing like a totenkopf, the tattoo looks exactly like a totenkopf, 1-to-1 on every detail, no matter how much people try to pretend otherwise.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world -4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

If you have an image that shows that much detail, please provide it. I really want to see it. I have not seen any. I see some black blobs/outlines that's all.

And from what I can see, the eyes would be different than on the SS version, and details in the bones are also not visible.

Still, it could be like you said the exact version. I can not tell.

And of course does the UK skull not look like this. But: skull on bone is a common symbol. Look for the example at this pre-nazi Symbol.

If we don't question the given facts, and form our own opinion, we are not better then the real Nazis.

Discrediting political opponents was part of their playbook.

(I am a German anitfaschist, breaking Nazi bones since 2000, and I am not here to defend anyone, just to animate independent thinking)

That's not a pre-nazi symbol that's a proto-nazi symbol...

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

But: skull on bone is a common symbol. Look for the example at this pre-nazi Symbol.

First off, that symbol is less similar to the tattoo than then totenkomf (that it 100% is). Second, you could also pull up images of swastikas that predate the Nazis. Should I also suspend judgement if I see someone with a swastika tattooed on their chest?

If we don’t question the given facts, and form our own opinion, we are not better then the real Nazis.

This is an absolutely ridiculous thing to say in this context. I'm seeing a picture that is, very clearly and obviously, a totenkomf, a Nazi symbol. And all I'm doing is calling it a Nazi symbol. And somehow, describing the thing that's right in front of my eyes makes me "no better than a Nazi."

I don't think it's a totenkopf because I was told it was by some influence campaign to discredit a politician, I know it's a totenkopf because I have eyes.

I mean, come on! "The Nazis discredited their opponents too." Ok then, should I not consider Trump discredited, for fear of being like a Nazi? Sure, my eyes have seen him palling around with Jeffery Epstein, but there's any number of excuses people use, if they really want to. I think there was one narrative that he was just infiltrating the secret pedophile ring to take it down from the inside.

The reality is that there's this enormous pushback whenever anyone tries to hold any politician to any standard whatsoever. It's like some kind of internalized authoritarianism. It's "boys will be boys" dialed up to 11.

I can say with 100% certainty based on the pictures presented that that was a totenkomf. Hell, if it wasn't, why didn't he provide pictures to prove otherwise? But no matter what evidence is presented, it's always possible to just demand high and higher standards of proof to protect politicians from any scrutiny.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

First, i never said YOU did not think! How do you assume i have this opinion of you? I said as much as you may be right!

Second, i did the work to CONFORM your statement, something i asked for repeatedly from people that state "trust me bro, this is true".

Here we go, 5 minute gimp job. But asking for proof is considered hostile now? WTF???

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

First, i never said YOU did not think! How do you assume i have this opinion of you?

This is the part that I responded negatively to:

If we don’t question the given facts, and form our own opinion, we are not better then the real Nazis.

Discrediting political opponents was part of their playbook.

To me I came across like, "If you discredit a politician you're no better than a Nazi," even though in some situations, like this one, there are legitimate reasons to consider a politician discredited.

Here we go, 5 minute gimp job. But asking for proof is considered hostile now?

The proof was already there. I guess you needed to see it on the specific location the see the similarities? Generally, asking for proof when there's already proof is going to get a negative reaction.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

To me I came across like, “If you discredit a politician you’re no better than a Nazi,” even though in some situations, like this one, there are legitimate reasons to consider a politician discredited.

Sorry, that was not my intention. Let me rephrase this: We are living in a political environment, where old Nazi tactics are applied, based on my observations mostly from the political right. I see many echoed statements from people, that never even had a look at the images, his comments and more.

This is bad. We should assume that everything anybody says about a politician is a lie until proven otherwise. Thats the assumption of innocence and always true, but especially now.

Also, again, not claiming YOU do this.

The proof was already there. I guess you needed to see it on the specific location the see the similarities? Generally, asking for proof when there’s already proof is going to get a negative reaction.

As i stated multiple times, i could not say if it is the same or not. I am autistic, so, it maybe a personal thing, but for me it was not clear at all. Proof is not "i can see it, trust me!", but, "Here it is, everybody now has the same facts and information, independently from his personal feelings, past experiences and interpretation.

And my conclusion currently: This dude did some very uninformed, very stupid stuff. I can not see that he is or was a rightwinger or Nazi, even in comments used against him (defining idiots that have "bolt" tattoos) he makes it political position clear.

Do i think somebody that defends people with literal SS tattoos is somebody that should have political power? No, but not because he is a Nazi, no, just because he is stupid AF.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

He doesn't even deny it though?? He confirmed it was a totenkopf in interviews with cenk uygur for example. Good god, the amount of proof you all require to confirm that the tattoo of a guy defending people getting SS doppelrune tattoos, goes on murder spree's in west asia and sexually assaults women matches the SS Totenkopf just to confirm that what? He actually is a piece of shit??

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world -2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I do not need nothing.

Why should I care? I want to understand, that's all. Maybe just read my other comments..

And, maybe you should read the fucking comments of him defending the SS dudes. He is not a nazi. He is just as stupid as one.

On the rape, no idea. Of course, believe women and investigate, but still, assumption of innocence holds.

But after all, America vote a class of Nazis and Neop Babies into power. A convicted rapist, fraud and openly corrupt man.

But hey, this dude is your biggest problem ATM?

Yeah. Nobody can help America anymore. You are lost

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

read the fucking comments of him defending the SS dudes. He is not a nazi.

read this again but slowly...

On the rape, no idea. Of course, believe women and investigate, but still, assumption of innocence holds.

This not a courtroom?? The guy is running for office?? He should meet higher criteria, like e.g. not "defending the SS dudes"?? Or carelessly lobbing grenades into dense population areas?? Or raping women?? What the fuck??

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And, again you did not read his commwnts, you did not have a look at the deleted comments database

You asshole just echo some sentiment without checking the facts for yourself.

You did not read my other comments ...

This moron called white America racist, around the same time he defended the SS dudes.

He called himself a communist and more.

I did not found anything about him throwing granades, and I DON'T CARE. USA, the land where kids can walk with full automatic weapons in a school and shoot other kids, and all You do is fucking thoughts and prayers.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And, again you did not read his commwnts, you did not have a look at the deleted comments database

I'm the one that dug it out for you! What the hell?

This moron called white America racist, around the same time he defended the SS dudes.

So?? I don't know how confused the guy was vs how much he was just masking but he got a nazi tattoo and went on a rampage with his SS buddies in west asia.

He called himself a communist and more.

And the nazis called themselves "socialist" in order to appeal to a greater mass of people. Actions speak louder than words and nothing this guy said is incongruent with being an ignorant little nazi, whether he acknowledges it or not.

I did not found anything about him throwing granades, and I DON’T CARE.

The platner left in a nutshell

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't care because I have no relation to this guy, and honestly, fighting the AfD and our current government is more important for me then some idiot in the USA, that should never have bin put on a ballot in the first place.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Do you no exit e. V.? A German organization that helps neo nazis to exit the scene? No? Maybe check this.

Bo defending a nazi is not the same as being a Nazi.

Read the fucking comments.

And I said: I don't know.

I never said you can't say what you want.

Now. I am not allowed to thing critical because this is not a courtroom?? WTF?????

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Ja ich kenne exit e.V. keine Ahnung was das hiermit zu tun hat aber ist mir auch egal. Jemand der diese Typen hier verteidigt gehört an die Wand und nicht ins Amt.

Die Unschuldsvermutung bis zum rechtskräftigen Gerichtsurteil ergibt keinen Sinn ausserhalb eines Gerichtssaales. Und wenn es einfach in das Bild passt weil der Typ eh schon als Mörder und Nazi-apologet bekannt ist, es selber zugibt so ein Tattoo gehabt zu haben, was für einen Sinn hat es denn dann noch groß die Pixel zu studieren??

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Gut, wenn du Exit kennst. Dann weiß tdu auch das es genügend menachen gibt die fa Landen weil sie es nicht verstehen was es bedeutet. Ernsthaft, ließ seine Kommentare. Der Typ ist einfach zu blöd es zu verstehen. Der gehört nicht in die Politik. Punkt