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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Kirk lived in vast wealth and luxury, and then died quickly, and his story is over. I don't believe in Hell, so as far as I'm concerned, he escaped justice, scot-free.

[–] Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Obsessing over the punishment isn't helpful and doesn't undo the harm they did. A bullet is quick, cheap, effective, and doesn't waste resources that could be better used on their victims.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

I agree, but then we should not focus on Kirk at all and focus on his survivors. Those that are harmed by the ideology that he pushed, and the increases in hate crime, suicides, mass shooting, state violence, etc. for which his rhetoric was a contributing factor.

Let's focus on them.

[–] starik@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He didn’t suffer (much), but he also didn’t get to live the rest of his life. Is that not a cost? Even if he never knew he paid it?

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

Not sure.

TMII deal with suicidal ideation as a regular thing. Every waking hour. It's been that way for my entire adult life, so even though the folks at 988 freak out about it, I just shrug.

Right now, the CDC is not updating its webpage on suicidality, likely because the new administration doesn't want us to see that it's been getting worse (and has been since Trump took office in 2017) Academic institutions that also track it note that we're nearly at 50,000 suicides a year. Curiously, mostly young white men, though LGBT+ and especially trans folk are disproportionately represented. I fall into the category of thirteen million Americans who consider suicide. (Incidentally, the US suicide rate is still not as bad as Russia's but exceeded Japan's over a decade ago.)

Sixty three days ago (I'm counting on) my psychotherapist decided that I was too spicy for the treatment she could provide, and referred me to the county behavioral health service. They passed me to a partner program that is impacted and has a waiting list of several months. At the advice of the counselors there, I am instead looking for alternative sources. I have been turned away from some, while others just don't call me back. One recently rejected my insurance on a technicality. So I'm still in a holding pattern as I rule out other potential psychotherapy resources.

Meanwhile, Stephen Miller is looking to put all disabled folk back into institutions, which I'm sure will be about as hospitable as Delaney Hall. So, while I don't have an exit plan, there's the looming possibility that ICE will soon be at my door. And that is a motivator to have something at hand.

Right now, half of the United States is going into debt just for food, fuel and rent. Life here is Hell. My Hell here is a bit different. I have food and rent security, but I'm isolated, and have to contend with the same bullies that beleaguered me in grammar school have now captured the federal government and are dismantling the country while putting it into critical debt. For now, a few things keep me here, but if my life is still the same by the time they are gone, it's time to retire.

So, frankly, I'm quite envious that Mr. Kirk escaped easily and quickly, while I am left to watch my society come apart and the world burn.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t believe in Hell, so as far as I’m concerned, he escaped justice, scot-free.

So the gun shot wouldn't have hurt at all?

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We all die, and in most cases, it's slow and agonizing as our aging bodies fight to keep working and fail. His death was short and quick.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe the bullet wound really hurt as he faded to black.

[–] starik@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The pressure wave knocked him out almost instantly.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Maybe, or maybe not. We can dream though.