A reminder that he's behind Build Canada and Build Toronto, and that Build Toronto's Eric Lombardi is running for the Ontario Librral Party leadership as we speak.

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[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The middle class already decides most elections because politicians target the middle class as a voting bloc.

This is why housing prices always seem to trend up: middle class wealth is concentrated in their family home.

This is also why there’s so much government funding for universities (public universities). The middle class disproportionately benefit from it. Taxes on working class people to pay for higher education that their own children don’t benefit from are regressive taxes. Basically a wealth transfer from the working class to the middle class.

[–] ProudCanadianCitizen@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In Canad, there is no wealth transfer from the lower class to the middle class through taxes. The wealth transfer all occurs at the retail and rental sectors.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I live in Canada. That’s not true. Higher education is heavily subsidized here, yet many of the paths (STEM majors at the top schools) are essentially closed for all but the most gifted of working class students.

Once you realize how skewed education is based on socioeconomic status, you see how little the working class benefit from having their tax dollars go to pay for higher education.

[–] ProudCanadianCitizen@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

" many of the paths (STEM majors at the top schools)" I am not sure what you mean by that. Entrance to the top schools is by marks. You have the marks, you get in. Does not matter what income level you have.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Income level is highly correlated with high school grades. Students from poor households are far more likely to fall below standards on reading, writing, mathematics, and science.

[–] ProudCanadianCitizen@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except for East Asian students in the Canadian system. There is obviously something more than economic status that is going on. It is also a cultural thing. In households were education is a priority and expectations are higher, such as the East Asian culture, the gap is diminished.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are plenty of low income Asian students who do not do so well in school. They just don’t live in Canada. Asian students who live in Canada are from a highly selected group of migrant families.

[–] ProudCanadianCitizen@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

East Asian students who live in Canada are from typical East Asian families.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They may determine the outcome of elections, but they don't determine what outcomes the outcome chases. That's the lobbyists

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The outcomes are what favour them though.

People who have a good job, plenty of vacation days, 2 cars, own their own home, couple of kids, money saved for school and retirement… these folks are not all that upset about billionaires.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They may be dumb, but they are also affected by housing prices, oil prices, service cuts, taxes raised. They still don't get politicians that do good for them, just like rest of the bottom 50%

They aren't better off because of who is elected even if you are accurate and they are the ones that determine the outcome of the elections. The elected politicians still don't persue the interests of the middle-class. The middleclass may simply be the most complacent because they are too afraid of becoming one of the Poors they seem to hate so much

Crabs in a goddamned bucket

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s the thing though. Beyond a certain point, people don’t care that much about being “better off.” If they have it all, they have it all, and they’re content. I don’t think they’re afraid either. Fear is mostly the burden of the working class.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't think you have that many middle-class friends, judging by your opinion here. I could be totally off base on that presumption but I don't understand how you can hold that view if you do. That would be my failing then.

Middle-class isn't a month vacation every year anywhere they want. It isn't even retiring early. It's not getting the best version of everything. It still comes with cares concerns worries stresses challenges and a host of other afflictions that can almost always be solved by more money, just like everyone who is not as well off as the middle class.

It's a certain amount of comfortable survival, enough to also do more than a few things just because you want to and you have the means, but it's not a place that has no view of a higher place, it's just not always having your feet in the muck. Water waiting to drown you with a higher tide than usual or a moment of loss of vigilance and diligence to do the things you MUST do just to keep your head above water

At least that's been what I've come to given my life's windings