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It's machine learning not copying. They are not copying and reproducing your book - except by accident lol. And they will fix the accidents soon enough. It's meant to be not just transformative use but actually learning how to write. And clearly they are mostly successful with that goal, even if the quality of the generated text is subpar - it is generating new text by learning from your book.
So this meme is moving the goalpost of IP. If someone goes to university and learns from textbooks the university wrote, they will have to get a license to practice the skills they learn. Like some kind of rent. That is what the argument here seems to be.
I don't mind them using textbooks. Its these companies that are CUTTING THE FUCKING SPINES OFF 1 OF 1 RARE BOOKS JUST TO TURN THEM INTO CLANKER SLOP.
Yeah read that too, that is just fucking outrageous. I really wish fuckai would channel all that anger into some concrete and sensible demands for regulation. Like making destruction of rare books for scanning illegal, or mandatory metadata tags for generative content and showing watermarks in the browser. Or labor rights. The only country regulating AI at all sensibly is China, like most recently they outlawed making addictive AI girlfriend / boyfriend apps.
PS: Just to add, the rare book thing is a bit hypocritical too. Personally I'm pretty much against copyright or intellectual property on principle, so rare books should be scanned non-destructively and be available as eBooks for free. But the argument against AI will tighten copyright, which is also what the AI techbros want. They are fine with paying some license fee to some fund to use the training data, because that will prevent others from offering AI for free (e.g. no running local open source AI models). Which makes certain they can forever collect rent on AI.
Bullshit. The works are blatantly copied and used to make money of someone else's effort.
This is simply stealing and clearly worse than copying something for personal use.
It seems you've fallen for their scheme to humanize AI. This is not some student learning from a book, it's a database containing all the books. If they wanted, AI could easily throw out any book, song or other work line by line. Just because they programmed it to jumble up the words doesn't mean it has any human-like ability.
Yeah the post is inaccurate because it skips over the fact that these companies don't even pay for the books.