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[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 77 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

To the average person (and this includes politicians, basically anyone not a software engineer developing the tools )who Cory generally writes to try and inform, they are the same.

Should they be? No. But that's a whole different thing and trying to change that in the general public mind doesn't change his current point about AI as the public thinks of it right now.

[–] joe@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Speaking at the level of your target audience is wise, but there is a point where information is not just simplfied, but lost, and I think equating chat bots with AI in the broader sense is past that point. It would be like equating websites with the internet.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I think the comparison is acceptable with maybe a terminology clarification in the footnotes, because "AI" is the false term under which this current bullshit is being marketed.

And people who believe the core mechanism in large language models to be AI are so uneducated that they will probably neither understand the distinction to legitimate AI research, nor bother to read footnotes.

[–] TheLegendaryAssholeOfJushinLiger@sh.itjust.works 0 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 29 minutes ago)

And people who believe the core mechanism in large language models to be AI

What does that mean? Transformers aren't AI? What? I don't think you understand this as much as you think you do.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

That's exactly the thing. Those who understand such a footnote don't need it, and those who might learn more from it are unlikely to understand it. The above commenters are simply being pedantic.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

Is equating chatbots with AI any different than equating a bunch of if/else statements with AI? Is any of this AI considering none of it involves actual intelligence or informed decision making?

Sure AI is more than LLMs, but those are the face of it in the public's eye and is what's driving these trillion dollar corporate valuations, which then lead to every company on earth declaring that their product is "AI!"

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

As a non-techie: websites are the internet.

Like, I conceptualize the internet as basically just a giant shared network, but the point of it is the websites (for me).

I apologize to anyone I may have just gravely offended.

[–] joe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I apologize to anyone I may have just gravely offended.

lol

I don't know how "non-techie" you are, but a good example is online games. When you're playing Fortnite, Roblox, World of Warcraft, etc you're not going to a web page, but you're on the internet.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I straight up almost called it a series of tubes, lol.

Yeah, that’s probably why I do think of it as a shared network, I just don’t play online games, so that’s not what I associate with the internet.

[–] joe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

There are other examples but I take your point.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 3 hours ago

What's lost? I can't think of anything.

Words are meant to convey meaning, and I bet you would lose a lot of non-technical people if you tried to explain the intricacies of what makes large language models worse than content recommendation systems, and doing this would be redundant for technical users.

So Corey can safely use the two words interchangeably and communicate with technical and non-technical alike.