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[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social -5 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

As a deeply concerned US voter who desperately wants a massive blue wave in November, I am very pleased with this result.

I don't care if you hate milquetoast moderates. We need leadership that the broadest possible swathe of society will consider legitimate

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

milquetoast moderates

The big takeaway for me is people are u ironically calling Crowley a "milquetoast moderate"...

Dude has literally sued his police department...

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/state-legislator-joins-aclu-lawsuit-against-stop-and-frisk-program-milwaukee-police

Not just personally sued them, joined an existing ACLU class action.

Then became vice chair of the same city:s ACLU chapter...

I wanted Hong to win too, but it's concerning so many people are quick to paint this guy like you just did.

He seems fine, and while I may have missed something, I usually don't.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 hour ago

He supports the genocide in Gaza and cynically weaponizes identity politics to defend his position. He said he considers being called an establishment candidate a slur. Crowley is not fine, he's a sellout who fails the most basic test of moral character that is condemning an ongoing genocide in which our own government is complicit.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The DSP arm hate the impure: anyone slightly less to the left than them.

Dynamics work the same on the edges, left or right

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Not really, it's desperate propaganda to divide the party.

What I did was say that divide is stupid and highlight that sometimes more than one person running in a primary could make a good politician.

What you did, was divide the party

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

"We don't need policies that will help people...we just need to win elections", is literally why things suck so much.

[–] Womble@piefed.world 9 points 1 hour ago

Having amazing policies does nothing to help actual people unless you can enact them. If you want to participate in electoral politics (as opposed to building working class power directly) then winning elections is one of the core components of that.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You do understand how it works, right?

If you don't win the election, the other side does.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

... and even if you win, if a big chunk of the population doesn't consider you legitimate, that is society slowly disintegrating

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

People won’t vote for policies that will help them.

Good old fashioned human stupidity is why things suck so much.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You do understand that the majority of MAGA believe their policies help people?

(yes, they only include people like themselves, but to have a properly nuanced understanding you should acknowledge that your political opponents believe themselves to be doing good)

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 minutes ago

Sure. It's fine to acknowledge that they think they're helping people...but the real nuance comes from understanding that those policies actually aren't helping people.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago

Uh... leadership that doesn't do shit isn't famous for having a lot of legitimacy. These days milquetoast moderates only have legitimacy among other milquetoast moderates; the days when a moderate one-size-fits-no-one politicians will have people shrug their shoulder and think "oh well" are long gone. People today want politicians who have concrete solutions to the problems of the working class and are willing to work to make them happen; that's how you build legitimacy in 2026.