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[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The DSA, including AOC and Bernie to a (far) lesser extent, are becoming the caricature that fox news pretended democrats were. They endorsed not voting in 2016, 2020, and 2024. Mamdani is doing some great stuff, but endorsing some almost ML/tankie people who don't support Ukraine and essentially think the US could never and has never done any good ever.

Then they hide behind "guys we just want healthcare and workers rights" whenever they're criticized, which is just co-opting democrat messaging so they can shield themselves behind democrats and pretend their positions aren't so extreme.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

endorsing some almost ML/tankie people who don’t support Ukraine and essentially think the US could never and has never done any good ever.

Who?

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darializa_Avila_Chevalier

Stated that the US had a hand in the Ukraine invasion by "bullying" Russia, a foreign adversary who was likely instrumental in Trump being the president right now. Actual Russian apoligia is legitimately insane. Also supports abolishing prisons, rather than just making them not for-profit and punitive rather than reformist.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darializa_Avila_Chevalier#Ukraine

In a 2026 interview, she said she believed Ukraine was a victim of Russia's violation of its sovereignty, and that diplomacy with Russia should be pursued.

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

True we haven't pursued diplomacy with russia we just sent weapons to Ukraine and didn't say a word to Russia. It's just absolutely ludicrous and the interviewer himself points it out, and she just essentially says :3 well not enough diplomacy!

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

A very good point that differs from your previous.

Goal-post moved and scored.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They endorsed not voting in 2016, 2020, and 2024

Who did?

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

https://publicseminar.org/essays/the-story-behind-dsas-non-endorsement-of-joe-biden/

The dsa? They explicitly suggested not voting for Biden. I can give you an interview of the current DSA leadership saying as much.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

hes getting his news from faux.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

well you should not use faux news as your source of opinions, because you are basing your comment on what fox news aired that day.

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

https://youtu.be/6RWsHLvBntg

My source is the co-chair of the dsa and their own words.