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[–] ech@lemmy.ca 174 points 2 days ago (6 children)

And grok used to mean "understand", not "nazi shithead propaganda machine".

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And meme used to refer to a unit of cultural information that spreads by imitation, not a funny picture on social media.

[–] TheBlindPew@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In fairness to memes, that definition is still largely true, its just that the common usage tends to refer to this specific form of meme. Like with squares and rectangles, not all anthropological memes are image macros, but all image macro memes are a subset of anthropological memes

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 points 1 day ago

This feels like your boss saying you get a company car and then giving you a scale model of a car with the company logo on it.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Memes are absolutely fascinating

[–] orenj@leminal.space 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It was one of my favorite words.

Such is life

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

From Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein. I wonder if the estate could sue for damages.

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We still have extortion

The X makes it cool 😎

(I see the Futurama reference didn't work sorry)

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s only because someone else took the letter X and made it objectively uncool. What a shithead.

True. I forgot about that. Mostly because fuck Twitter and that guy anyway.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I recommend Stranger In A Strange Land by Robert Heinlein. It's a pretty influential work of early science fiction.

Mind you, it's been like 30 years since I read any Heinlein. Not sure I'd feel the same way about his stuff now as late teen me did, but the many books of his I read definitely shaped a lot of my philosophy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok

[–] Cease@mander.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yeah no sorry the origin was always gross. Stranger in a strange land is just heinlein's weird fetish porn where he justifies old men sleeping with young girls (sound familiar?)

And grok was always a term used by weirdos who thought the book was deep for some crazy reason and wanted to sound like they were part of this insider intellectuals club

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

What? He gets freaky in some other books, but Stranger is pretty clean for a free love manifesto. Every character I can think of was a full grown adult, I don't think there's a single scene even euphemistically depicting an old man sleeping with a young girl. All the sex even referred to was between people of relatively close age.

Grok just means to understand/drink fully. You drink water, and it becomes a part of your body. You understand an idea, and it becomes part of your mind. It's an efficient word to communicate "understanding something fully enough to functionally incorporate it into your worldview". It's not that intellectual.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's a rather puritan and skewed perspective. Afaik Stranger in a Strange Land is a very weird book but very tame and not pornographic at all. And it was an important artwork that explored the themes of the 60s sexual revolution. A time where people knew very little about sex and gender and questioned everything.

[–] KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Please don't interpret this as a defense of Robert Heinlein's books as it has been decades since I read them and it sounds like you might be more familiar with them. But weren't all the women in Stranger in a Strange Land older than Michael Valentine Smith?

Are you confusing the character with Lazarus Long from Time Enough for Love, et al? I think he was thousands of years older than some of his (adult) love interests...

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I dunno. I only ever used it as shorthand for being able to understand the basics of something. Also, words can change for the better. So in this case it went gross -> fine -> gross.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

Grok was also a support character in the game Paladins.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I'm going to keep using it as a verb. If people are dumb enough to assume I'm dumb enough to use xai, that's not my problem.