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    [–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    This is literally why I stopped using Manjaro.

    I’ve botched 2 Manjaro installs just doing a pacman -Syu while their certs were expired and I ended up with an incomplete upgrade.

    Never once had this issue with EndeavorOS.

    [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Look, I don't want to call you a liar... so let's say maybe you meant to say pamac or got things wrong.

    Because:

    1. That's not how pacman works. If it hits a mirror with expired certs it just outputs a warning and uses another mirror.
    2. On a fresh install Manjaro will compile an optical subset of mirrors for you based on location and response time. Those mirrors are spread around the world on different domains. It's very unlikely that your list would include ONLY mirrors.manjaro.org and mirrors2.manjaro.org.
    3. But even if it did, and let's say for the sake of argument there is a bug in pacman AND you got those mirrors... those two hosts are on a different certificate from manjaro.org (the website), are CNAME'd to .rsc.cdn77.org hosts, get renewed automatically separately from the website cert, and have never been allowed to lapse afaik.

    Maybe it wasn’t due to certs, but it still happened. That was enough for me to switch distros. I was much less experienced with Linux back then, so I wasn’t able to figure out how to get it working again.

    So far I’ve daily-driven EndeavorOS, Mint, PopOS, and Kubuntu. None of them have broken themselves with an apt or pacman upgrade.

    [–] stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago

    Doesn't happen with Antergos either.

    I mean, I've gotten a NXDomain error ever since they shut down, but at least it's not a certificate expiry!