Okay, but that doesn't help me, "economy do better," doesn't help me. The cost of living in this country has only gotten more expensive with poorer quality goods and services over the course of my entire adult life. Maybe you benefit from this, as many middle class Canadians do, I do not. Canada and the US are firmly on the path to fascism, and this is not some deviation from that. Trumps image of fascism has proven too unpopular for its own use, but exceptional at enabling liberals to claim some level of inevitability and desirability in their politics, both of them would prefer that I die rather than threaten capital whatsoever.

I wonder if anyone benefits from a system wherein a sufficient number of people feel compelled to tolerate an obviously bad choice because the "only other choice" is worse. Hmmmmm.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I immigrated to Canada in 2007 as an adult and it felt great here. Cost of living and housing was manageable and I felt like I could have a great future then it started going to shit almost immediately and when 2020 hit even before COVID it started feeling like absolute shit and it has been getting worse and worse. Benefits cut and things getting more expensive.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Yes, and that's topical in more than one way, Mark Carney was the governor of the bank of Canada during the '08 crisis. At the time, his response of lowering prime and encouraging spending was viewed as risky, but it is also credited as the reason that Canada fared better than other G7 nations. That policy is also what facilitated the housing bubble we are now reliant on for our fucking economy to function.

Hence why I am adamant that this is not some necessary evil or delay of the inevitable.

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I guess I'm just not as optimistic as you. I really don't think I'm benefiting from the decline.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I honestly thought you had a stroke or something before I realized that you just said that "GDP go up," is not part of a "decline."

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's not what I said. Though you have an optimistic outlook. And that's good!

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, that is what you said, but you don't seem to understand how these things interact. I'm optimistic in that I don't believe capitalism is an inevitable way of life, but you seem to think any of my comments suggest that this system is working, which is the exact opposite of what I've said.

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No, that's not what I said. And I never said your comments suggest the system is working.

You really are very optimistic. I bet that feels great. I'm happy for you!