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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

A big problem is that people need smartphones for so much of modern life. You can stop watching Disney and your life won’t meaningfully change but it’s really hard to avoid evil smartphone companies. Part of me wants to switch from Apple but what would I go to? Samsung who’s just as bad about right to repair? Google who’s Google? I’m not saying it’s impossible but I’m not going to say that the choice is as easy as cancelling a streaming service.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

A big problem is that people need smartphones for so much of modern life.

Do you though? They're convenient, for sure, but you can also use a dumbphone and a laptop.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Yea, just gunna carry my laptop around with me everywhere. And that’s not even talking about all the nonsense on laptops that most people can’t deal with.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

Keyword: convenient

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

How the fuck would I access my bank then? All banks literally require their apps to access the account or sometimes even open the account, nevermind actually pay for anything or get a debit or credit card.

>Inb4 some American downvotes because they forget the rest of the world exists

We get it, Americans use cash in America, and they use magnetic stripe cards and cheques and all these other technologies that were phased out in rest of the world before I was even born, but that's not really an argument to make on a global platform.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

All banks literally require

In your part of the world...

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

In most of the world that isn't 1 country that starts with 'United States' and ends with 'of America'

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Fairphone. Right to repair, plus good custom ROM and linux on mobile support.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Useless without passing Google's Integrity checks.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 29 minutes ago

Two phones.

One for everyday life.

The other for documentation of events, activism, direct action, this app mentioned in the post, and maybe even rebellions.

(actually if you are doing a rebellion, you better use meshtastic or some sort of radios, and remember: do not transmit from home)

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip -2 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah this is generally the take I hear the most. The smartphone is presented as a necessity and for a lot of people that may be true, but what it really is is a tool for capitalism. It spies on you, gives you fomo, serves you ads, gives access to all kinds of addictive content... oh and work apps!

It's like AI, shoved down our throats until people think it's needed. It's not.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah except I do actually need one for work, paying rent, paying bills etc. It's a helluva position of privilege to be able to say no to something like that, and that's coming from someone who doesn't have a car, which is far less necessary.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago

You can't do those things any other way, eh? That's crazy...

It's a privilege to say no, eh? Interesting take.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago

Your smartphone serves you ads?

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I would say you’re missing some nuance in these arguments, though.

With a phone people no longer need laptops or full-sized computers and they also get a phone and camera to go along with it. They get a lot of power even just using fairly mundane apps like email, file storage, and a calendar. And then you have access to the internet and all the power that comes with that. I also don’t know why you think phones show ads.

AI, on the other hand, is hot fucking garbage at everything it does. Why anyone uses it I can’t say, it’s so bad and it’s known that it’s actively making people dumber. I don’t touch the stuff and my life has been going just fine.