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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

iPhones literally were visionary. The whole industry was trying to imitate blackberry and overnight apple made them completely irrelevant. Android changed to what it is from what was originally a blackberry interface.

MacBooks, yea, it’s a laptop. They had some really good ideas in there, sure. MagSafe and touchpads that didnt royally suck ass were welcome features. The M-series lighting a fire under intels ass was exactly what the entire industry needed. Love them or hate them, even when Apple is bad, they create good trouble in an industry that needed to be proven wrong from time to time.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What was the innovation in the iPhone?

It was worse in almost every way except marketing than the n900.

The technology had reached the point where you could have smartphones by then, I don't see what was innovative about iPhones.

You can call it visionary, sure because he spread his vision for a locked down phone, but where is the innovation in the iPhone?

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

the n900 was released two years after the iphone. it was modeled on the iphone from the start, like the entire industry was. (and the n900 still didn’t support multi-touch, which Apple patented.)

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The n900 was an interation in the n800, but sure how that can be modeled on the iPhone without time travel.

Is the iPhones invocation patenting things?

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

the n900’s changes to the n800 were modeled on the iPhone. the n800 is completely different: for one, the touch screen is activated by pressure, not touch. Are you arguing that the n800 is better than the iPhone 1?

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No I'm pointing out that the n900 with it's full keyboard was not modeled of the iPhone.

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 20 hours ago

every new phone back then was actually new. the ideas for n900 (and all its radical changes, radical as in for the n800 not for the industry) were clearly about the iphone. i’ll agree that the n800 was not.