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What does this mean for Tuta and Proton?
Tuta and Proton's political circumstances are very different from Autistici/Inventati's.
https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/
https://cyberinsider.com/tuta-refutes-allegations-of-it-being-a-front-for-spy-agencies/
Maybe they're politically-neutral or maybe one or both are sabotaged somehow, but either way, they aren't explicitly anti-fascist.
Doesn't change the fact that if tomorrow trump wakes up and decides that they too provide services to "antifa terrorists" they could suffer the same fate.
The bigger part of this story, to me, is how everything (notably the DNS serverHold and termination of their bank account) happened without any judicial involvement. No court or judge ordered PIR or Banca Etica to act, yet they did, on nothing more than their inclusion on that list - and very earnestly, as its deadline was the 25th of September. There is nothing that could prevent the same happening to any service
What we need is some new DNS root hosted in international waters or smth.
Or, by how things are going, distributed DNS rooting (DNS is already distributed, but the root is under control of fascism-adjacents).
They give away your data to authorities. It's simple - they give your data to authorities.
Protonmail guy official likes Trump.
Tuta will do whatever German gov says.
They will satisfy any legal requests. And it's not even alt right vs far left - I don't think they care.