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There are better fake cheeses these days. It's easier to give it up than it ever was. And tons of pizzerias now offer vegan cheese pizzas.
But honestly giving up beef alone should be commended, just for environmental/climate reasons.
I haven't seen fake cheese that tastes good yet. A good tip is not to try to make vegan food taste like non vegan. Just enjoy the vegan foods as they are.
PS I'm trying the whole "give up beef" thing plus "be vegan one day of the week".
As a non vegan/vegetarian, I agree fully. By trying to replicate something else, the result often appears like a worse alternative.
I enjoy plenty of vegetarian and vegan foods, but don't try and tell me that a plant based burger tastes the same as a normal burger, that just ruins the experience.
Play to your own strengths and don't pretend to be something you are not, by doing that you reduce the stigma of vegan and vegetarian labels becoming associated with lower quality.
The concept of being vegetarian one day a week sounds like a brilliant idea, not sure that I would go the entire way to vegan across a full day, but a few vegan meals in a week wouldn't be so hard.
While I understand your argument and fully agree that there are plenty of normal vegan dishes that hold there own, this point always comes from the non vegans 😅
Meat tastes good, and going vegan often means giving up favourite dishes that you grew up with. Having the mock alternatives means that when you do get that itch, you can still kind of scratch it. I also dont think it is fair to write them all of as inferior, there are some pretty incredible options these days.
No, having a mock alternative doesn't sceatch the itch, it just reinforces how much better the real version of that thing was. While I haven't tried them all, I have tried a lot due to recommendations by friends and every one has been like comparing turkey bacon to regular bacon. No, it isn't even close.
I enjoy a lot of dishes that are vegetarian or vegan because they play to the strengths of their ingredients without pretending to be something else. Replicating the format is fine, many kinds of dishes share similar formats, but trying to compare it to something specific is a bad idea. I have had some vegsn sausages thst were great for example, but they are their own thing snd not comparable to beef, pork, or combination sausages and there is such a wide variety of meat sausages there is no need to compare it to anything specific. It can be its own thing!
Hard disagree. I quite like the plant-based burgers, hot dogs, jerky, cheeses, etc. They really do satisfy me in the same way as the "real" ones.
a big part is the perception of what you're used to, I rarely eat meat nowadays and when I do it tends to be game.
My burger patties have gotten to a point where I prefer them to any meat alternative, I'm not saying they're the same. Outside of serving the same purpose in a burger, but it's pretty wild I scoff at minced red deer meat now - It just doesn't carry the same umfph
Go to burger king. Get a regular whopper and an impossible whopper. They are literally indistinguishable. Well, until an hour later when the impossible whopper gives you a ton of gas lol.
That's a straight up case of dumping enough crap on top of each patty that you can't tell what the hell you are eating anyway.
Try cooking each patty with nothing more than a bit of salt and eat them plain with nothing else, not even a bun, and then tell me you can't taste the difference.
But then that wouldn't be a burger...
If you need to hide the taste with all that crap, can it really taste good?
All that crap? You mean buns?
The buns, the catsup, mustard, "special sauce", the onions, the pickles, the cheese, lettuce, and don't forget the sesame seeds! You could put a piece of cardboard in that McDonald's hamburger and not be able to tell the difference......
Ok, so you just weren't reading then I guess? Because this is about Burger King, not McDonalds. And you can get a plain whopper with just the bun vs a plain impossible whopper and it's the same case, they will taste identical.
You must not pay much attention to what is placed on your burger then. Burger King or McDonald's is all the same stack of crap on a bun. They both smother the patty with all the stuff I listed to hide the low quality. No matter if it's a beef whopper or the impossible whopper. If you don't believe me, buy one of each and take them apart to compare.
Whoppers have a ton of toppings. Lettuce, onion, tomato, mayo, ketchup, and I'm probably forgetting something. The only real taste from the meat is the grilling smoke.
I've had impossible burgers and while they are a bland they did a decent job on texture, so enough toppings make up for it just like with cheap beef.
Exactly. I really dislike the taste of beef patty. But i tried a patty looking vegan product. It gave me the same bad taste.
Non vegetarian here. A vegan friend served me some vegan burger and I was absolutely shocked at how good it was. Did it taste exactly like beef? No. However it hit most of the spots to sate a craving I may have for one. The vegan cheese pretty much perfectly emulated american "cheese", which I don't personally use, but on a burger has a specific place. I have also introduce TVP into my normal diet. If you cook it right it can act as a very good alternative to crumbled ground beef. My friend makes a vegan chili dip that, if not told, almost everyone just assumes contains beef.
Other vegan cheeses I have tried are awful, even some expensive ones. My best friend doesn't process animal protein, so was basically forced into eating vegan style. We have made some recipes from chefs online, mostly using various types of mushrooms, that are to emulate steak, that have been very good.
Also, here in Belgium, vegan Gouda is literally cheaper per kilo than actual, cheap Gouda.
Yes, but the post is about veganism, which is the ethical principle that it’s wrong to exploit animals. Cows enslaved for milk are in most cases worse off than those enslaved for their flesh as they are repeatedly impregnated, have their children killed, and are still slaughtered at a fraction of their lifespan just like the flesh cows.
There are certainly some vegans that do it for environmental reasons. Usually a bit of both though, but not all.
most dairy calves are brought to full weight before slaughter, and the life span of a dairy cow is about 5 years.
My child has dairy allergies.
The fake cheeses are just okay at best.
I quite enjoy VioLife's cheeses. They are mostly based on coconut oil so they have a similar flavour, but it's delicious and it melts well.
The "spreads" are good, maybe the fake feta, but generally agree that dsiya is basically only good if you're early days and struggling, or if your friends insist on making a regular pizza and don't know how to make that interesting without cheese so here's some daiya idk, I guess it's edible.
Daiya smells like dirty socks, especially when heated
My wife is allergic to dairy and it throws me off every time
I mean, plenty of actual cheese is supposed to smell like dirty socks!
We basically only use Chao cheese (not to be confused with Sonic) for the kid these days.
It’s alright. There is also a decent shredded alternative.
Yeah, Daiya is terrible. My wife and one of my kids can;t eat dairy. Violife seems to be one of the better shredded !cheeses, but only when melted.
I've never cut beef out entirely but it is surprisingly easy to dramatically reduce how much one uses. Nearly everything that's good with beef is also good with other meats. I also found doing meatless Mondays to be a great way to experiment with vegetarian/vegan dishes without feeling like I was missing out on anything and then I could take that knowledge into other days
I think a big problem is a lot of people are not confident in their ability to cook. They maybe know how to make a couple of their favorite childhood dishes and a couple things they picked up along the way, maybe. It's hard to replace a burger with a portabello if you don't know how to critically approach cooking temps and times so it ends up awful, or trying to cook a passable ratatouille and not knowing how to use a knife or having any spices in the cupboard
So I dont have to be a level 8 vegan to not be a POS?
Despite what a vocal minority on here would have you feel, no, you do not. Every small, positive change should be celebrated
We got a vegan Margherita for us 3hrn my vegan friend was visiting. Couldn't notice a difference to a normal cheese pizza.
Trump's mystery meat has made me pause eating beef. Replacing it with mostly pork and chicken
https://www.newsweek.com/pork-recall-8-states-highest-warning-issued-listeria-concerns-12410954
Be careful with pork