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This is nothing new. Liberals have always done this throughout history. They put all the blame on individuals to cover up the root cause of these constantly reoccuring wars and genocides.

Netanyahu isn't the problem.

Israel is. The West is. Imperialism is. Capitalism is.

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[–] fartival@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Israels occupation of Gaza and the west bank is wrong.

But, where are you getting this 90% figure? Highest I could find was 65%. Not that any support is acceptable.

Or are we just taking instagram memes on face value?

It feels like this meme is really trying to encourage hate for people just based on where they were born.

[–] America_Worst@hexbear.net 5 points 17 hours ago

it is a sign of moral health to hate israelis

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A majority of the Israeli public, at 78%, expresses high trust in the IDF, showing no significant change compared to the last three months (75%–77%), since peaking at 83% during the war against Iran (Operation Rising Lion) in June 2025. Among the Jewish public, trust in the IDF remains very high at 90% in this survey, compared to 86% previously, while among the Arab public it remains very low at 32%.

https://www.inss.org.il/publication/survey-october-2025/

The 90% number seems to be Jewish Israelis as opposed to Israelis in general.

[–] fartival@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago

Thank you for the source!

Thats aweful.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

most israelis were born in europe, so nah, youre projecting maybe?

[–] fartival@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

This whole discussion is about the lack of source for given statistics.

You might be right, but I dont know where youre getting your info.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Look guys, I think the apartheid and genocide is not great, but it's wrong to say it's not the sole fault of Netanyahu, with the rest of Israel being innocent and good!"

[–] fartival@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never said any Israeli was good.

Just asked for a source for the stat provided in the OP. Given such source that 9/10 support the IDF. I could easily agree thats it would be safe to assume that any given Israeli is faschist.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Well you've been given that source now

[–] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So you think the rest of their occupation is okay? I can see where you're confused then.

[–] fartival@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My gripe was with a post that provided unbacked statistics seemingly to encourage hate based on country of origin.

No need to be passive aggressive, I didn't justify any occupation in my comment.

I believe you as well are against needless hate of people based on things they can't control, like where they were born.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 6 points 1 day ago

"Hate based on country of origin": don't worry, just think that all the Israelis you've ever met and will ever meet have ever been and will ever be against Israel's colonial expansion.

[–] Madagaskar_sky@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] fartival@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is the main poll I saw quoted around when searching.

https://jcfa.org/survey-most-israelis-want-to-see-military-rule-in-gaza-the-day-after/

the current poll indicates a clear Israeli majority (64%) opposed to establishing a Palestinian state

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

64% is not over 90%

[–] sapphironZA@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its also a case of polling Germans under the Nazis government vs what their true thoughts are.

The reality is that German support for the Nazis policies rarely went over the 35-40% level. The majority were just forced to go along with it.

Still, just like with the Germans, it will be a hell of a job rabilitating that society.

[–] rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nazi Germany was a fascist country where you would get tortured for opposing the genocide of jews. Israel is different.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

israel's government has also been around a significant bit longer than nazi germany's was. that gives time to indoctrinate entire generations.

like, i grew up in statesia. i'll be picking the propaganda out of my history education my entire life (and i studied the damn subject for a bit. long, irrelevant story) and it's not fun. it's less fun being unaware tho.

[–] rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is on you if you got propagandized to support genocide and killing infants

you're the only one claiming propaganda absolves you of your actions.