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It’s quite curious that we’re trying to allow folks that can’t drive, drink, vote, join the military, or do any other number of adult activities alter their body like this. I went through this when I was younger, and it’s rough. We need to be aware that children genuinely do not have their own best interests at heart most of the time.
I wanted to be the same gender as the only parent that was there for me, and I think a lot of what we’re seeing here is similar to that. Maybe it would be worth it to talk to someone that’s grown up, someone that went through this themselves. Someone that received the gender affirming care while they were young… although that might be hard to find for this very reason.
I don’t understand it right now, and I would even say I disagree. But I’m open to understanding… I just don’t think the experience I’m looking for has even happened in a person yet (due to the mentioned legal issues).
At the end of the day, the subjective experience runs everything. Does this stuff harm or hurt folks in the long run? Only time will tell.
Edit: The angle is pretty different depending on if we’re talking about reversible procedures or not. If they’re reversible, the discussion is probably more similar to the current accepted practice of prescribing mental health medication to kids, which most people see as fine.
For those that wish to continue the scientific pursuit, this does a decent job of explaining the issues with current studies, although the organization is not without bias: Amsterdam cohort study
Regret rate is lower then joint replacement surgery and chemotherapy.
I can’t really find a direct large scale study, honestly we should fund one. I did find this though…
This isn’t a direct study but it kind of explains the issue I was trying to communicate, and it even references the other study that was linked here:
The Amsterdam cohort of gender dysphoria study
Per that that website you linked:
I guess it makes sense you're getting your talking points from people who don't respect the bodily autonomy of women, since they also don't seem to respect the bodily autonomy of people in general.
You have no actual points or argument and are just wasting peoples time.
OK thanks, I will take their numbers with a grain of salt. It’s looking like the regret numbers might be closer to 10-20% but that’s still pretty low and generally acceptable.