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[–] kepix@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

yeah...and the electric vechicle cost 3x as more. takes ages to equal those out IF you can afford one.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 14 hours ago

Dacia spring is like £12k new isn't it? Where are these ICE cars for £4k.

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Not any more. Just bought an EV new for about the same price as I bought for an ICE in 2019 before adjusting for inflation.

They are getting cheaper as they get more ubiquitous. If you have an ICE that runs fine, don't rush out to replace it, but if you're in the market for a new car you should seriously consider EV.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Fill in the blank:

ICEs are available new.

ICEs are available second hand.

EVs are available new.

EVs are available _____________.

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

for the top10%

[–] SethW@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

EV's are crazy affordable, get one of the cheap Chinese imports that are a few years old. you dont live in a country that artificially restricts competition do you?

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 14 hours ago

Doesn't even have to be Chinese tbh. If you are getting a car, going for ICE is a skill issue and you deserve it.

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

That's my main gripe with EV advocates. I can buy a 30k euros EV, or a 10k euros ICE car AND 20k euros of gas "for free" over the next 10 years (20k is 200 euros per month which is what I can afford for gas and repair).

A lot of people are poor around me, and they can only get the 10k euros car. EVs are a great idea, but it's not for everyone right now.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, luxury cars cost more. Don't get a luxury EV if cost is a concern.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

People on a budget do not buy new cars. Yet EV critics sure are careful not to ever mention second hand EVs. Is that ignorance or strategic ICE promotion?

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago

LOL! I got a downvote for such an obvious comment! I wonder who it's from! 🤣

[–] arc99@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

EVs cost about the same as petrol cars these days. The two cheapest cars on sale in the UK are actually EVs. Not good EVs, but still capable of being city runabouts.