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[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 week ago

If I'm going to have to host my own infrastructure, I don't want it tied to Bitwarden, given the new direction of the company.

I fully support Vaultwarden though, and I wish them well.

I'll be going with KeyPassXC and Syncthing.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Vaultwarden (and all the client apps) depend on Bitwarden for the API spec. If Bitwarden introduces closed features in the API that Vaultwarden can't/won't implement, but the client apps do, it will split the spec. They can also introduce API license keys, which would render Vaultwarden mostly irrelevant.

The only way for Vaultwarden to remain relevant going forward is to own it and split ways from Bitwarden. This would in turn mean that the FOSS client apps have to decide which to support. But I think the ecosystem is going to fragment eventually anyway, so the sooner every app decides which way they want to go, the better.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or you could just fork it when there's a problem

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sounds like you're volunteering to do that additional amount of work.

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

History shows this will happen. Or do you have any counter example?

Mariadb, libreoffice and most recently OpenCourant

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not arguing against it of course, just dislike when people make forking (and establishing a whole new standard) sound like not that big of a deal.

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

well, the first step of forking is clicking a button or execting a "git clone" command. thats trivial. publishing to android is a bit of work, but very one-time.

keeping up with development is a different story - but many foss projects thrive with support from whoever needs to have something fixed.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You'll also have to convince other maintainers to adopt the new API in this case, otherwise it's pointless. Vaultwarden is only the server, you'd at least require one third-party client (e.g. Keyguard) to add and maintain the Vaultwarden API and probably also someone to fork the browser plugins. This whole issue is quite involved.

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago

I highly doubt future compatibility. Things will diverge. I care about having a good hostable password manager. I don't care about the name of the client or if it's compatible with some closed source shit.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 1 week ago

When presented a hypothetical between the commenter suggesting it be

A) forked now

And me suggesting

B) forking when there is a problem

You elect C) the commenter does the work?

Brilliant contribution

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm. Using Vaultgarden but its not clear if the Android app will still be available.

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

I've been very happy with Vaultwarden+Keyguard

https://keyguard.dev/

Edit: I had not looked closely enough at the license and did not realize it's not FOSS, my bad

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

But that's not Foss, so I didn't consider it

[–] artwork@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is free and open-source on Desktop at this moment.

Keyguard is a commercial app and unlocking a premium funds its further development and supports me (Artem Chepurnyi) directly. As of right now, only the Android builds distributed via Google Play store have main features locked behind a paywall, other distribution channels have a build with everything unlocked.

Source: https://keyguard.dev/docs/premium/

But it makes sense to pay for it, since Bitwarden is a constantly changing system and these projects based on it must always be up-to-date with their API changes, too. This is time and worry consuming, and should be compensated.

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

License is: all rights reserved.

That's free like in beer, and open like 'allowed to inspect' that's not what most people mean when they talk of Foss.

source: https://github.com/AChep/keyguard-app/blob/master/LICENSE

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Thank you for pointing this out- I'd managed to completely miss that it seems. That's unfortunate

[–] artwork@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Roger that. Thank you for the clarification that you meant the actual term, and not just the fact of no mandatory payment and it having an the source available for public.

I get what you mean, yet frankly, I do not believe such projects may be always free that are supposed to always be up-to-date for another system they have no official relation to, and keep it as a responsible hobby other people depend on.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It currently doesn't work with Vaultwarden. The Linux client doesn't accept custom certificates. And the Android client is paid. It is a dead-end for self-hosting.

The license is also stupidly a single sentence. Which means that use could be nuked at any minute, and any money you use to pay the developer means nothing. If they wanted to kill the project today and nuke the repo, you have no legal rights, the project dies and fuck you and your passwords. That doesn't exactly inspires confidence.

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Thank you for pointing out that the license is not FOSS, I hadn't noticed that. I suppose I'll be exploring my options again.

I'd been using the Android client from f-droid and hadn't needed to pay for it, which was working with my VW server. On my desktop/laptop I use rbw, so I hadn't noticed the cert issues with the kekeyguard desktop client.

[–] artwork@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you very much for the awesome project mentioned! I had no idea about it!
The marvel works great with Vaultwarden, too, it seems!

Though, Bitwarden system/clients are not so featureful as KeePassXC, for example, it's a great alternative for a more adequate synchronization.

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

There will be... Some fork at least