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I won't vote for him
What if it's him or Don Jr.?
Right now? I probably won't bother voting. If that day comes what would I really do? Couldn't say. I'm tired though. It's clear that all our problems come from wealth inequality, so if there are no candidates that take it seriously, then I don't really have a choice at all. It would probably come down to how federal workers are going to be treated, as there are federal workers in my family, and it's the thing that directly affects us the most.
Doomed no matter who
Then vote socialist.
Ahh yes, a third party with absolutely no support in the house. They'd get so much done, even in the 5% chance they actually get elected because the system is rigged for two parties.
Don't get me wrong. Would love a mamdani or even El sayed (sorry if it's misspelled, going off of memory) to be placed all over every part of our government. More AOC's and Sanders'. But we need to make the best short term option, not just help guarantee the win of the fascists by withholding votes or put them on a third party with no chance of winning. We're not ending this shit hole situation in a single election, so better to make progressive change than let the atrocities continue with full support from the entire government.
We need to stop negotiating against ourselves.
This has been the argument for literally 30 years.
Yes, you're not fixing this in a single election. So giving up all power by agreeing to vote for a supposed "lesser evil" is giving up the future elections as well as this one - because the centrists don't even win.
The reason to vote socialist when you lose the primary is not that third parties will win - the system does give a massive advantage to D or R candidates. It's to record that the centrist Democrats left votes on the table, and exactly how many they did.
Yes, I totally get this, but Harris would have been better than Trump. And if the public put the same effort and pressure on her that they're putting on trump, it might have actually made some difference. Everything is conjecture though, because it didn't happen that way.
I hope there's enough socialist party support in the 2028 primaries to make a difference. If there's a good candidate, and they get enough of the vote, I'll probably swing that way. Things are so bad right now, that it may end up swinging public sentiment enough.
How do you propose to put "effort and pressue" on elected officials if you're not even willing to deny them your vote?
Remember how everyone was talking about how they were going to push Biden left after 2020? It's nonsense - your leverage is greatest BEFORE someone is elected, not after.
Which is how we've gotten here. Hundreds of thousands of additional people projected to die because of policies enacted by the current administration (usaid), the absolute silence from trump and his goons on gaza (yes I know Harris also supports Israel, but she seemed like she'd at least attempt to listen to us, and isn't literally buddy buddy with bibi)
No, she didn't. Her own internal polling showed that her support for the Gaza genocide could lose her the election. . . .and she continued it.
The people involved basically asked her just to lie to them . . . not even to change policy, but pretend she would. That was too much. The only response was "I'm speaking"
then go somewhere with ranked choice voting so you aren't throwing away your vote.
We are talking the federal election for president. There is no place where ranked choice exists for that election
I personally voted in the 2024 presidential election in Alaska And ranked 4 presidents for the instant runnoff election. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_Alaska
Throwing away your vote would be voting for establishment dems or repubs. You're going to gleefully vote for the party that dramatically accelerated the genocide in Gaza?
I car significantly more about my friends than about strangers on the other side of the planet
Of course you do.