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I was just thinking the other day, not as a gatekeep but as a philosophical question: Can you make anything considered art without understanding pain? I feel like in order to even make pleasurable art you need to make it in ~~constraint~~ contrast to pain.
I donβt believe all art comes from pain, some comes from pleasure β as in, it pleases the eye and such.
Studio ghibli's Miyazaki (cant be bothered to look up his first name, but hes not the dark souls Miyazaki) is famously incredibly depressed/nihilistic but also makes incredible films and simply cant be forced into retirement. Pain does make art.
Take your favorite musician or act and listen to their couch surfing, barely eating first album then listen to their 20 year run, financially secure album and you'll have your answer.
You leave U2 alone!
U2 asked for it when they forced their album onto everyone with an iTunes account.
Unless they are always depressed like Radiohead
I was going to say food, but then I remembered every long-time cook can handle hot things barehanded because they've burned themselves so many times they've lost sensation in their fingertips.
Same for comedy. I think a bit of trauma is required to be a good comedian.