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[–] SPRUNTnsfw@fedinsfw.app 99 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

What the fuck makes Apple think they have the right to not only spy on my private communications, but to also censor conversations between me and my wife?

[–] o8bepbua9@lemmy.world 61 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Apple says the detection is done on-device, but it's closed source and I can't think of a way to test it so I wouldn't trust it

[–] mysticalone@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago

Have you tried SeeFood app? It can tell you if the food is hotdog or not hotdog.

[–] cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The calls are encrypted with AES-256 so you'd have to have the phone decrypting the stream and then connecting to an Apple server for nudity verification without on-device detection. It's entirely possible to verify/intercept what's being communicated from a device even if it is closed source.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Who is to say it isnt on device but sending all the data on again? It being closed source is the issue. It existing is the issue.

[–] giant_smeeg@feddit.uk 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep. It could even be sending metadata back
"Child Nudity detection at 2026-10-10T10:10:10" etc

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I mean that is the perfect selling point for monitoring but there are pictures of me naked as a child on my mother's fridge, it shoupdn't auto flag as a criminal activity. Not arguing against you just adding a note.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 12 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Feature detection in images is extremely light weight so it seems that it would be fairly trivial to detect someones wang before the stream is encrypted in the first place. There is likely already a ton of processing done on raw camera data before it's and sent off-device anyway.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 26 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Looks like it’s an option you have to turn on or can turn off.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/105071

[–] giant_smeeg@feddit.uk 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Because photos and videos are analyzed on your device, Apple doesn't receive an indication that sensitive content was detected and doesn't get access to the photos or videos.

That doesn't mean that - It could be on device AND send an indication...

[–] potter2010@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago

Or, Apple is flat out lying and does get a copy of everything.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm like 99% certain there's an option to turn it off.

[–] StabbingSky@lemmy.zip 30 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That shit should always be opt in, not opt out.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

This is actually do to government policies being put in place in the U.K., Australia and such. In those countries if a user has a child account (under 13 years old) certain safety features are turned on by default now in those countries, and the parent can choose to turn them off. If your account is over 18 years old, has a credit card attached to it, or I think there is a couple other ways it will automatically assume you are over 18 and you don't have to prove it (otherwise you would have to scan your ID to get your Apple account to have you listed as an adult). In the U.S. you don't have to prove it, and it is opt in by the users.

So it's a catch 22, I think it should be opt in every where, but no one is winning a political campaign on saying 12 year olds should be able to send or receive nudes without their parents knowinh about it.